Jedo
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by Jedo Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:25 pm
Hey everyone, look like me and Magicwand are gonna be playing. Wintebreak just started, so this seemed to be a reasonable time for me. Hope everyone enjoys this game, as I'm certainly looking forward to it. We'll be playing with four stones, which seems like a reasonable handicap for a malkovitch game. Have a good game:
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Incredibly detailed sequence I have planned
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by Magicwand Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:29 pm
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by Jedo Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:58 pm
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This is the sort of game I want to play. I want to put some pressure on white and hopefully get some useful influence. I considered the low pincer first, but if white jumps out and presses, I don't really like giving white the influence, even though it's a fine result for black. I'd rather generate some power and let white grab a few points on the corner/side if he wants to. However, I'm sure magicwand will come up with something tricky.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc These are the two main lines. However, MHO may very likely tenuki. The disadvantage of this move is that there isn't such a severe followup, but so be it.
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by Magicwand Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:34 am
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not what i wanted...but really doesnt matter.
below is what i expect.
for observers: i really want him to move that one stone.
i will really feel terrorable if he tenuki.
only way for me to overcome thismuch handycap is to attack and build influence.
remember "ONE STONE CAN NOT BE ATTACKED" so if you pick right time and sequence to move your stone then it will drive me crazy (although i wont admit).
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by Jedo Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:15 am
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Ok, this move seems natural as I dont want the corner to get enclosed. Normal joseki is:
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc There's no way MHO will play this though. I expect something like this:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc And he'll try to get an attack going on my pincer stone. This is why I'm glad I played high, as I don't have to look after it so carefully as a lower pincer.
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by Magicwand Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:17 am
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many observer ask me what i would play if i am black so i will go ahead and post my choice.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc 6 will by my choice. second choice will be "a"
i dont consider point B because i dont want any headache.
if you can win without fighting then that is the best way to win. (quote from: sun tzu)
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by Jedo Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:13 am
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I considered a few options here. I was considering just tenuking to take sanrensei somewhere else, but felt like magicwand get control over the bottom wasnt worth it:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc This is possible, but I'd rather play more actively on the bottom
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc If I'm gonna play on the bottom, it seems like the most urgent matter is to keep white seperated and weak. Of course white is still light.
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Something like this might happen, which looks fine for black.
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by Magicwand Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:33 am
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by Jedo Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:02 pm
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As noted before. As long as I keep white seperated I'm happy. Before I considered closing that corner important to take away white's lightness. Now that he's added another stone though, I would be more than happy for him to take the corner and weaken the outside stones. I want to make white commit to groups to take away his flexibility.
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc Maybe next he'll try to pressure my two stones. I think his groups are weaker than mine though.
I really wanted to play this way:
$$Wc
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc But my corner just ends up getting wrecked.
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by Magicwand Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:57 pm
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by Jedo Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:56 pm
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I don't see any reason why respond to the approach is that urgent. The nice thing about 44 stones is that they can fend for themselves, and attack the floating white group seems more important. Now if I can close that corner, it really does seem like a lot of points. Of course, now I expect white to attack that hoshi.
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Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Wc In this case I would have to decide between a and b. He might make some kind of weirder approach though.
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by Magicwand Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:20 pm
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by Jedo Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:54 pm
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by Magicwand Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:09 pm
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by Kayres Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:20 pm
not for the players
jump jump jump jump jump..... is it only me or do you (i won't say hate!
) also dislike this? it looks awful to me
) also dislike this? it looks awful to me 