86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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I think the best strategy for Black in a high handicap game is to make thickness quickly and then launch safe attacks on White. In this game, Black has opted to take a little bit of territory on the right side instead. And now he has two weak groups to worry about. This game already looks pretty horrible for Black.
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Yeah, this is pretty severe. Doesn't seem like I have much of a choice though. White probably plans to get some kind of double attack going, so this is where I'll really be tested. White will most likely dive for the 3-3 next, or possibly try some kind of loose net

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D would be such a nice point to get...
Anyway, I'm not sure yet if I regret the tenuki, cause I am pretty glad to have my middle 3 stones fairly safe and have white's group be weaker.
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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i was hoping he play something else but IMO he answer my move correctly.
but he has many more mountain to climb.
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Even without a handicap, :b6: looks reasonable. Black shouldn't mind sacrificing :bc: . Besides, Black threatens the attachment and crosscut, a - b - c .

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[go]$$Wc Strong jump for White
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You have to admire the fighting spirit of :b6: . :) However, it invites :w7: . :w7: is strong because it pushes through a small opening. :b8: is necessary.


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[go]$$Wc Diagonal play prevents connection
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The diagonal play is better, I believe. First, it does not present White with a small opening to jump through. Second, it prevents White from connecting his stones.

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[go]$$Wcm9 Bad jumps?
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They say, The one space jump is never bad , but maybe it is here. :b10: invites :w11: , which, as explained above, is strong. :b12: is consistent, but questionable, as well. The idea of :b6: is to attack White on two sides. How can that happen if Black ignores :w9: , and allows :w13: ?

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[go]$$Wcm9 Settle the corner
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Now that we are here, I think that Black should settle the corner. :b14: does so, and threatens "a" or "b".

(Too late!) ;)


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P.S. Magicwand if you win this game I'll buy you lunch in NY some time :mrgreen:
What I'd expect if magicwand was not a crazy person:
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This looks pretty good for me. I blocked the way I did because otherwise, his stones work too well on the bottom. I'm sure he will complicate matters however.
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Same thoughts apply as last time. If tries something tricky like extending on the stone i just hit on top of, I'll look for the best way to hurt the weakness of his left side shape.

This will probably be my last move tonight.
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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am i missing something? :scratch: :scratch:
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Magicwand wrote:
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Even at this point I'm starting to like white. The :bc: stones seem to want to chase white on both sides, but of course black can't play on both sides as fast as white can jump out with one group.

There's another way of looking at it with tewari, I think:

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Let's say at this point black tenukis at :b1: and white may play at :w2:. Would black then make the :b3: :w4: :b5: exchange, or would black treat :bc: lightly as was his stated intent?
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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I don't think I'll be able to post until wednesday. Sorry guys.
Hmm, I wonder if I should mess with that shape on the left now or leave it for later...
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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IMO, black's shape looks a lot worse than white's...
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Aphelion wrote:
IMO, black's shape looks a lot worse than white's...


Yeah, Black should run before it's too late. F7 perhaps.
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Sorry for the delay.
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I can find any way to directly take advantage of white's loose corner shape by cutting because my group is so weak. I played this last move for two reasons. First is to strengthen this group and give me a chance to take advantage of white's aji, and second is to help out by one space jump group by coming out. If Magicwand responds With the hane, even my extra stone might be enough to cut white on the left, although I'm not sure yet. IF I decide it doesn't work, I can always play a sequence like this:
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Now that I think about it, that last exchange was pretty bad and I wished I hadn't played it. Oh well, time to move out now. My group is pretty weak, so I need to get some space. Luckily, I have plenty of room to work with, and his group isn't so great either. I'm eyeing the peep at H3 as well.
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