82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Bcm85 Move 85
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X B O X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess he counted. I should have a ton of forcing moves here which I will use first.


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[go]$$Bcm85 Move 85
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$$ | . . . . . 8 4 6 7 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O 3 2 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X 1 O X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O 9 . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



Something like this looks possible.
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Wcm86 Move 86
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X O X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
Putting some severe pressure on this black group. No particularly sophisticated strategy or reading yet, just poking and seeing how he'll respond. I don't expect to kill this group, but I do expect to build up strength to threaten the central black group, which may or may not die, but will give me some profit regardless (like securing my moyo).
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Wcm87 Move 87
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O . . B O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X O X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Good thing I didn't use triggers, this is is much better than I could have hoped. This not only gives me an eye, but removes the liberty issues I was having with the G17 stones in some of my variations where I try to cut off and counter attack F13. I think this descent is better than a capture because it gives me some endgame moves against K18.
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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A small point in sente before I take action against F13. I'm very confused tbh as to the big points on the board now. Small question to observes: what is your thought processes in this stage at the beginning of endgame? I find it very hard to determine where the big moves are.

At this stage, if I'm black, I'm thinking "I've won this game by so much that I'll just start connecting all of my groups and clearly making two eyes in all of them to ensure my safety, because points have become irrelevant at this point. If I don't die, I win."

There's some interesting aji at E13 and G13. I wonder if Aph has taken notice of it yet. Still, I think he'll live quite easily with both groups.
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Wcm88 Move 88
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O 1 . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X O X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Bcm89 Move 89 Prisoners: B + 1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O B X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm90 Move 90 Prisoners: B + 1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X 1 . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Tactics and Variations
If black plays like this, I think I can kill him outright.
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X 1 3 5 7 . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 2 4 6 . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |[/go]
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Bcm91 Move 91 Prisoners: B + 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . B . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is an odd looking move that I didn't find at first. I read through a ton of variations, but they all boil down to a few themes:

1. This obviously threatens to make an eye killing the G14 stone. White can try to make this eye false, but the forcing moves that result give me another eye elsewhere and letting me live.

2. It threatens to connect out. White cannot stop this connection without letting me live locally.

3.If white tries to mess with the connection of this keima, the aji near L17, M16, and L16 will break his position.
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[go]$$Wcm92 Move 92 Prisoners: B + 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O . 1 . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Strategy and Thoughts
If my goal was to attack this group aiming to kill, this would probably be counter productive. But I'm really aiming at strength to attack the central black group, so I think this is fine.
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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black's top group is safe in sente and now he can turn his attention to the center group.
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 5 . 3 X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O 6 O 1 O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . 2 4 . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |[/go]

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . . 4 . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 9 7 5 2 X 6 . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . 0 O 8 O 1 O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . 3 . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |[/go]

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O 8 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X 7 . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . 4 5 . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 6 . 2 X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O 1 O 9 . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . 3 . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |[/go]


These are just a few of the variations I came up with but I think black can live in sente at the top or connect his groups without too much trouble. There might also be a better move than the move 1 that I came up with, I also may have missed something so if you see any mistakes please let me know.
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Bcm93 Moves 93 - 95 Prisoners: B + 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 3 . 1 X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O 2 O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I will carefully evaluate if I can take sente after this, but my gut feeling is I can.
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Post by Dusk Eagle »

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X W 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . X B . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O O O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Note that with :bc:, :wc: can be absolutely killed with :b1:.
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Each of us woke up one moment and here we were in the darkness.
We're nameless things with no memory; no knowledge of what went before,
No understanding of what is now, no knowledge of what will be.
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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[go]$$Wcm96 Moves Prisoners: B + 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 1 X . X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O . O O O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Black can't play like this.

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . . X O 5 . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 1 X 3 X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O 2 O O O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . 4 . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm honestly not sure what black will do instead, but whatever it is, I'm pretty sure I build up strength.

Maybe it'll go like this:
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[go]$$Wc
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O O X X . X . . O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . X X , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . X O . 4 X O . . . . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . 1 X 2 X X . . O X . . . . . |
$$ | X . . . . O 3 O O O . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | X O O . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | X . . . X X X . . . . . O O . X O X . |
$$ | O O . O O O X . X , . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O X . . . . . . . . O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . 5 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . , . . . . O , . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O O . . O . . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . X X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

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2 issues that come to mind:

1. Can I tenuki?
2. If I don't tenuki, is H14 my sente?
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Re: 82. Aphelion[5k] vs Numsgil[5k]

Post by schilds »

Not for players:
White is very strong at wishful thinking :p.

I don't think white can sever the connection between the two black groups in sente. However, I don't think black ends in sente either, simply because any time white realises he can't stop 2 eyes forming up top, he should ask himself which is bigger: stopping a 0 point, gote black connection in gote (thus inducing black to invade his 'moyo' to make a 2nd eye for the group in the middle) or solidifying his 'moyo', removing room for a 2nd black eye in the middle and forcing black to make a 0 point, gote connection to the top.
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