32. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)

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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Haha, I really enjoy following magicwand's games. First of all, W 12 is really terrible and goes against all fundamentals in Go.. You should try to be ahead of your opponent in running fights, not intentionally letting your opponent get ahead..

But Magicwand justiy his mistake by "below is what i expect. yes white has lost some points in below variation.
if it was a stronger or equal strength player i would never play as below.
but i think i am stronger than he is so losing some points here will not decide the outcome of the game.".

Is he trying to say that he deliberately let his opponent get a very good position because he feels he is stronger (and how does he figure that out in 10 moves? :).

Then both W 20 and W 22 is big mistakes. Why play on the second line when you dont have to? Especially W 22 is yose, at least with W 20 there he can invade the whole area pretty easy. White is clearly behind in this game.

But according to Magicwand, he is already ahead and his _opponent_ made the mistakes. I really wished he commented more on his own moves, he is so funny :D
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Here I disagree with Magicwand's assessment. I think that Black has pulled ahead on the board. (OC, the skill difference is in his favor.)

I agree with Kirby's tenuki. Black's thickness on the right reduces the effect of White's jump into the bottom side on the second line. However, I think that the top side would have been bigger than the one space jump.

As for Magicwand's undervaluation of Black's thickness, I expect that he has had good success in reducing such thickness.
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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It's interesting that he highly values his own thickness in other games, however. (vs. Dusk Eagle, vs. wms, etc.)
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Cool, a lot of comments! I wonder how stupid my analysis sounds... I think I'm going to have to think of strategy for a bit, so I'm going to think for a little bit...
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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@Kirby:
It's easily the best analysis I've read so far. Very well done!
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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ChradH wrote:@Kirby:
It's easily the best analysis I've read so far. Very well done!

Thank you, ChradH. I will try to come up with a cool followup...
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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Question for Magicwand:
Why the high approach for :w24:?
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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fwiffo wrote:Question for Magicwand:
Why the high approach for :w24:?


i have to counter his influence. you will see later that his middle will be nullifiedy by my invasion. i guarantee it.
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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people want me to put more comment for the viewers... i have some free time now.
my assessment about below picture. if i had a choice i will take white everytime.
one skills kyu player must learn is to assess the value of the influence.
although his middle looks good to a beginner's eye i see toomany weaknesses.
main reason why i dont consider that moyo to be threatening is that i dont see any one move that will solidify into points. it is too wide. and black is one step behind white. he must answer my move 24 and i can build my own moyo and points to compliment his. i think many (not all) professionals will agree that white is in better situation because white already has solid points. i might be wrong but probably right.
there is reason why i win most of my game as 3d in kgs. it is because i play to win.
not play to be fancy.
edit: yea.. corner sure is ugly :) but it fits my style.

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[go]$$Wcm24 Move 24 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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[go]$$Bcm25 Move 25 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think that Magicwand played a very good move here, and I've had to think about potential responses quite a bit.

To begin with, I have been thinking of the whole board position. In general, Magicwand has a lot more solid territory than I do. I do think that my influence is valuable, but it hasn't materialized into territory, yet. I think that this is a very delicate situation, and I have to do my best not to ruin the influence that I have gained from earlier in the game.

So I think that my most obvious response is to defend along the right side. I might expect a sequence like the following:

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . 4 2 3 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . b . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The problem with this is that I think that it is too easy on white. White gets to play an easy joseki, and brings the game closer to an end... Which means that it will be a bit harder to use the influence that I've developed... I really have to figure out how to use this influence.

Also, in the sequence above, there still seems like there's some aji left for white to exploit, such as weaknesses/openings at a and b... I feel OK about making some points in this sequence, but I'm not sure if I'm using my influence well if I play this way.

So since I was so focused on influence, the next thing I thought of was a kind of weird sequence:

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . O . X 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 3 . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My idea here is to try to help my influence on the bottom by capping his approach... The problem is, I don't know if the two stones, :b1: and :b3:, in the diagram above are really doing that much for me. They might help my influence a bit, but it doesn't seem like an active way of playing. I think my approach is too simplistic and obvious to be effective.

So then I thought about ignoring his approach, and making an approach of my own, but I thought that white could use his approach move effectively by pincering me with one of the marked points below:

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[go]$$Bcm1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . x x x . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . x x x . . . O . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't really like this because he can counter my influence on the bottom pretty well...

So finally, I decided upon the move that I did. I think that it complements my influence on the bottom alright, it splits white up a bit so that he doesn't have an easy time making territory on the top, and it gives me a chance to possibly attack his approach stone in the future... I'll do my best! :mad:
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Re: 32. Magicwand vs. Kirby

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[go]$$Wcm26 Move 26 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

his move was not bad...
let me see if he can withstand my attack without plan.
i dont think i need to treat him as my equal.
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[go]$$Bcm27 Move 27 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Magicwand has made another strong move, I think. What first comes to mind when I see it is that he is trying to reduce the influence that I have on the bottom by capping my stone. It's a good idea, I think.

If I wanted to counter this idea directly, I could cap his cap, I guess. So I thought about this possibility:

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram A
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . B . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought this was kind of a good move at first. It seems to help my influence at the bottom... But I don't think that the key is to try to make territory with my influence. My influence sits there on the bottom, but I have to use it in a more effective way than simply surrounding territory. A move like the one above in Diagram A seems to put too much weight on the influence I've gotten on the bottom, I think.

Also, it lets Magicwand attack my white stone and get some power at the top... This doesn't seem like a good thing to me.

I also thought about this move:

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[go]$$Bcm27
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . B . a . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . O . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But I don't like the complications that are left behind if white invades at "a" now or later. It may work out for me, but he can probably use his capping play effectively and get something to counter what I've got going on the bottom...

I also thought of this (just one possible example for white's response):
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[go]$$Bcm27
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 3 . a . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But again, there's the problem with a. I don't really like playing closer than 3, either. It makes my stones seem too inefficient, I think. Maybe that's just my personal opinion.

I think that it might be good to keep white separated from his approach stone on the right. His move before this last one was a good move, I think, and if he can connect easily with his capping stone, it could be pretty good for him. So I started to think of ways of separating him:
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[go]$$Bcm27
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't like the move above, because it leaves white options for cutting me. Yes, he is separated, but it's not that great. Also, he can try to activate an attack against my top right stone when he pleases, so I may be at a disadvantage.

There's also this:
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[go]$$Bcm27
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O 1 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't mind this move that much. It works to keep white separated. But I don't like the fact that I'll probably make the capping stone stronger by touching it directly. I don't like that aspect of the move. For the same reason, I also decided against playing this:

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[go]$$Bcm27
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 . x x . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . x x . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The move above strengthens white's approaching stone, and makes for nice attack potential for white around the marked spaces (and he can also do the 3-3 when he pleases).

I thought briefly about this (just an example sequence):

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X 4 5 . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 2 3 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . 1 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But to 6, I don't even separate his stones, his high approach stone on the right still has potential, and he's really damaged my last move. I don't think that this is a great option :(

So I decided to play the move the move that I did in the game. It doesn't necessarily split white, but it gives me the option of splitting white later. It strengthens my last move, and it doesn't help his capping stone that much. I don't want to help his capping move, because I don't want him to get power in the center.
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Looking back at the diagrams, I'm beginning to wonder if the "cap the cap" option from Diagram A in my last post was better than the move I played. I'm a little unsure about it, but I guess I've already made my move. :-p

I'll keep trying to do my best.
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[go]$$Wcm28 Move 28 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . W . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

ok..i think he played like 4 stone handycap player.
let me keep treat him like 4 stone weaker player and see what he does..
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[go]$$Bcm29 Move 29 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There's a particular sequence I'm aiming at, which may be seen in the next couple of moves (maybe :-p).
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