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Offline illluck
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #121 Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:40 pm 
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Feels like black should start the ko and play each move in trigger as a threat?
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #122 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:07 pm 
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i looked at it for another minute and found this which i didnt think about.
at this point i can not be satisfied with ko. :(
i will think more after he makes his move.
i usually dont think about future variation until my opponent makes his move.
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[go]$$W Prisoner White:6 Black:5
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 2 3 6 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 X 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | X . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Aphelion
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #123 Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:45 pm 
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To Magicwand:
What will you do if Black starts to play the ko again instead of responding to your forcing moves? How will you handle the threats that he can make?
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #124 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:35 am 
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To Magicwand:
What will you do if Black starts to play the ko again instead of responding to your forcing moves? How will you handle the threats that he can make?

that ko is two step ko. so i can ignore once and it will still be ko.

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Offline Jedo
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #125 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:51 am 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner White:6 Black:6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O 0 O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
ok, so I guess I might as well take this ko. That sequence pretty much sucked, and once again my failure at reading frustrates me. We'll probably both live and I'll get sente. Maybe if I can get enough up out of the upper right...

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #126 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:55 am 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i am willing to giveup whole group and play somewhere twice.
when you are ahead you should find a simplest way to win and i think this is it.
funny thing is that even after he win the ko it is still ko so he has to play one more move.
which will give me 3 moves to compensate for the corner which is plenty.
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 2 X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



for my side..i think i will avoide ko as below.
so i am ahead for sure.
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . 7 X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 6 5 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 2 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O 3 O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 4 . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Jedo
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #127 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:54 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 2 X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Huh? I guess he really just wanted the free move and was willing to sacrifice his group? Did he think I would respond to that? I certainly can't afford to respond to a move like that. As for what might happen now:
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 4 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X 3 . . |
$$ | . 7 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O 6 O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 8 . O X O O O . . . 9 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 2 X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Maybe something along these lines. He'll probably try something weird in the upper right though.


how i will kill everything in sente:
seriously though, how are my comments, cause this is my first malkovitch 1v1. The reason I don't post more variations is that MW is so unpredictable there's no point!

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Offline Violence
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #128 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:47 pm 
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seriously though, how are my comments, cause this is my first malkovitch 1v1. The reason I don't post more variations is that MW is so unpredictable there's no point!


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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #129 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:52 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

as i promised

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 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #130 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:35 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Might as well close off this area in sente and then return to the top. I might sacrifice a little to get the side I want:
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 4 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . 8 7 5 X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Creative sacrifice or wasteful nonsense? You decide!

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #131 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:43 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O 5 O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i am going to wait until i get enough ko threat to start the ko.
i am wondering if he is aware that there is ko in the corner.

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Post #132 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:16 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 6 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think the points are worth losing the threats

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Post #133 Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:41 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 7 . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Horibe
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Post #134 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:49 am 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 6 . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I think the points are worth losing the threats


I the the corner is just big enough to provide MW with a bunch of those threats he was looking for.
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Post #135 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 2:51 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . 8 X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I was going to go with the hane I considered, but in the end I felt like it just gave white too much territory. Despite everything that's happened, I think I'm ahead and there's no need to go crazy.
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . 8 X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 7 . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 0 O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X 2 . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . 4 . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Possible?!?!

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #136 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:06 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

just play solid moves until i get a chance to start the ko..
by my count i think the game is very close...or i am ahead.

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 Post subject: Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)
Post #137 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:04 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This certainly seems wrong, but at the end of the day I just couldn't come up with a reason not to do this. The top is clearly more important than the right side, and I'm pretty strong around so I"m not worried about the cut
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 0 O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . 1 X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . 3 . 6 4 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . 5 3 . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'd be pretty happy with this

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Post #138 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:22 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i am happy with below
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O 7 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X 4 5 . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #139 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:12 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:8
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I hope he doesn't jump next, I find those annoying to deal with. Damn you send line!

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Post #140 Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:50 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X X O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . O O X X X O X . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | 4 3 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | X X . X 5 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i am scared he might know about ko and looking for a way not to give him any chance to win.
he probably donsnt know about the ko but i dont need to risk my winning for that.
i think will win this fight because of a & b ko threat. then his marked black group is dead.
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[go]$$Wcm131 Prisoner White:6 Black:9
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O O O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . X . . . . X X . . . |
$$ | . X . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O B O O O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O B B O X . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O B B B O O O . , O O X X . X . . . |
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