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 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #61 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:46 am 
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Further thoughts:

Actually, I'm convinced it's better to let White connect underneath. He's on the second line, he's not making points, I'm alive and out to the middle, in sente, and have the endgame push in the bottom left as my privelege later:

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[go]$$Bcm29 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 X a . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It doesn't actually threaten to kill though, so maybe I can't get it in sente. Even so, it's better than White blocking and having the endgame at "a" later. I want sente really badly here. I'm 95% sure this is what I'm going to do - the remainder of my problem is the top vs the top right, and I'm completely torn. However, that's not something I have to worry about just yet. One final consideration:

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[go]$$Bcm29 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 3 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Can White do this? I think not, at least, not now White has forced me to reinforce, which is yet again leaning me towards getting my sente back.

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Post #62 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:50 am 
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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, I've decided. I've also decided M17 would have been better than D2 I think. White is threatening to build a lot up there. At least his shape is flat, but he can develop it nicely, so reducing is very large.

If he tenukis now to take either the top or top right, I can swallow this stone in sente:

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[go]$$Bcm29 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | 9 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 7 6 O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | 8 . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 0 . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . 4 X 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So, let's see what he does.


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Let me know if you don't agree :)

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[go]$$Bcm29 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 2 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #63 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:54 am 
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@entropi:

Actually, it's more the aji than the points comparison. If White blocks, Black gets to continue pressuring due to the following sequence:

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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 9 O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . 7 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . 6 O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 3 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Due to this, it's better for White to have a group that can escape to the center easily and lightly. Black then has to take the corner really, else the slide seems a poor exchange, and Black then has to accept gote as well. It's more a case of "picking a move that doesn't let your opponent poke you around for a while" than direct points, because it's the poking around in the midgame that often picks up 15 to 20 points if there's a weak group involved.


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Post #64 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:15 am 
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[go]$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . 3 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 4 X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Playing like this would be the most severe way for black. Because of 21 exchanged with 22, black is now thick in both upperleft and at the bottom, while white would have two weak groups.


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Post #65 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:07 am 
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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . a X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Presumably, black doesn't play "a", above, because white could play "b"... I guess.

If this is the rationale, perhaps someone could elaborate on why the following picture is worse for black than the game. I guess black gets few points on the second line this way, but I'm not really feeling it, yet...

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[go]$$Bcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . 7 X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #66 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:19 am 
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@kirby: My justification is that moyo potential is more useful than 2nd line territory. I'm also concerned that White jumping out there gives a potentially useful tesuji at G3.

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Post #67 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:52 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i am still maintaining my komi and i dont need to start any complication.

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Post #68 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:10 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . 3 , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, it's one thing if I can rescue my stone with the move in the top right, but I don't think I can. So, instead, lets reduce White's ability to develop points, and see what happens.

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Post #69 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:13 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i think it is his mistake..but i am not 100% sure..

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Post #70 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 6:28 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . 5 O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No way am I letting you ignore that. I'm on tilt right now, and it's far too late, so I'm in the mood for a fight. Rescue this one if you can (oh, and please don't kill my top left group :)

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Post #71 Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:40 pm 
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


if he happens to hanne then i will cut and fight strong.
all i want is sente for 'a' and 'b'
if his group gets attacked then his bottom will be erased automatically.
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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X 6 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . 8 7 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Magicwand wrote:
if he happens to hanne then i will cut and fight strong.
all i want is sente for 'a' and 'b'
if his group gets attacked then his bottom will be erased automatically.
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X 6 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . 8 7 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


My prediction:
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O 9 . X 6 . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . 8 7 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #73 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:46 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, my Go has taken a bad turn recently, and this game exemplifies why. I was looking at this board last night thinking "Why do I again feel like I'm on the back foot?" and realised it's all my fault. I'm being a pink pansy. That's not to say that might not be appropriate sometimes, but Go is a game of strategic warfare, and magicwand eats pink pansies for breakfast. William Wallace didn't run away because the English had a big army. General Leonidas didn't decide Sparta looked better under Xerxes' control. They stood, they fought, and they took what they believe was rightfully theirs, fully accepting that they might die trying.

If I'm not going to play Go with that attitude here, I should leave the stones in their bowl.

As I analysed this position, I knew I should hane. Everyone hanes around the head of two stones, but I just can't see any way of being happy after White cuts:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . 0 . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . a 8 7 9 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sure, I might be ok, but I might not, and if I die, I lose. Then it struck me - why do I want two groups here anyway? I'm surrounded by enemy stones. I don't need anything clever or tactically sharp. I need thick, solid, strength. It suddenly dawned on me that I should have done that in the lower left too - Divide and Conquer!:

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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . 1 X 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So, I'm disappointed with D2. I'm angry with C9, and I'm going to resolve not to make the same mistake again. There's no room in this game for hiding in the corner. I will fight you magicwand, and I will trade blows until one of us gives in. I only half care which of one it is, because more importantly, I can't afford to turn this into a game that follows your momentum.

My Sparta wants its Freedom.

My predictions:

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[go]$$Bcm37 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . 5 . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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The first step to beating a stronger player is having the guts to throw a punch at his face.

I like the attitude.


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Post #75 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:10 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X 8 . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i expect below. after that i am looking for 'a' rather than 'b'
'b' is point oriented but imo 'a' is just as good. ofcourse c first.
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . . X 8 . . . . a . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ ---------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I must keep ahead. I'll jump when I can block on the center side and net the cut if he wedges:

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[go]$$Bcm39 BAD
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 9 . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . 8 X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 7 6 X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 3 2 4 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm41 GOOD
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O 9 . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 8 X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 7 6 B W . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 3 2 4 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 5 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #77 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:35 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm42
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 7 6 . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 4 O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . a a . . . . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . a X O . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . 2 . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I need to deal with the aji around "a" first I suspect, but I figure magicwand isn't expecting me to try and bully his group

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Post #78 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



i changed my mind. my previous variation looked weak and lifeless.
all i want from this attack is some influence that will erase the bottom black influence.
also his group look weak. i think i will get good variation out of this attack.

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Post #79 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:46 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


What? Wow, no you don't magicwand. I'm not going to be sealed in here. We're in a pushing race, we keep going until someone jumps ahead, then we tenuki. If you tenuki early, I get a thousand dollar bend and start punching holes in your shape. I'm going to do some very serious reading in a minute, particularly if you hane:

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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . 7 . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O 5 . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X 1 2 6 . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #80 Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:50 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X O . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . 2 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . , . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X . . . . . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



easy choice for me

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