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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #141 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:53 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm71 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X 7 X O O O 8 X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . 6 . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 0 . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i will let you choose :b79: on defense.
one way street..
i successfully distroyed his bottom..but i gave him toomuch influence..
i have to be careful because i can not let my two stones in the middle become a target.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #142 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:59 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X B . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 1 O . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Many thanks :)

As planned ... so, he does live after all. Predictions:

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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X B . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 1 O . 4 . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . 5 6 2 . . O . 3 . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Then I guess we'll see
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #143 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:03 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . O . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #144 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:09 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . 3 . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #145 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:20 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . 4 . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

wasting ko threat

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #146 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:29 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Removing the clamp aji
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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #147 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:34 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



i didnt really count but i think i am ahead comfortablely.
only thing i have to worry about is his middle influence.
if i can control that then i have this game in the bag.

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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #148 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:38 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something I'm aiming for if White ignores:

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[go]$$Bcm89 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . 9 , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X 6 5 . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 1 . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . a O 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he doesn't, this is the influence I want to start my attacks in the middle and the top left
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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #149 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:57 pm 
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Hoy, topazg:
Just eating that invasion I think was pretty big, but you did get big influence. So in hindsight do you think his m3 was a good move ? Ok ? Bad ?


Edit:
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Magicwand's next move; I bet topazg offers an exchange.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #150 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:02 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X 8 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

below is what he is after.. and it is not good for me.
i have to twist the sequence and not take this path.
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[go]$$Bcm87 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O 4 O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . 5 . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 . . 2 X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


something like below is what i expect but..very complicated.
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[go]$$Bcm87 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . 6 . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X 2 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . 3 5 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #151 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:31 pm 
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Yeah, it would be big. Sadly, with the aji, I didn't see any way of eating it all (even excluding the stones to the right of the bottom hoshi). It was too easy for him to escape I think - I figure it's better to completely seal him in in sente than become too thin and fall apart.

Yeah, M3 was a very good move, I'd wanted N4 or N6 for some time, but never wanted to take gote to play them as there was always something urgent going on. I think White can be pleased with this, but then Black I think can be pleased with the top right. Neither side has all that many points right now, so this influence is still very valuable. I feel I'm possibly behind, perhaps 5 points or so, but it's still a close interesting game for the time being :)

Who would you take here? White or Black? :P
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Post #152 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:36 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . B . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . 9 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X 8 . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to sooo bad. Will need to read, this could be really unreasonable, but that marked stone has _aji_

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[go]$$Bcm89 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . 1 3 4 . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O 5 . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not good enough for gote.

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[go]$$Bcm89 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . 6 . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 4 8 . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . 1 2 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not good enough full stop.

I think I have to block :(

Heeeeeeyyy, tenuki time?
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Post #153 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:40 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . 9 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Let's do this!
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Post #154 Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:29 pm 
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R3 is huge. What is he thinking???

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Post #155 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:30 am 
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[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . 0 . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



i can not understand his direction of play.
he must learn very popular korean baduk saying:
rough translation "peep first then hangma"

if he is attacking my group then direction of attack is wrong.
i am erasing his influence and making my group safe same time.
an ideal way to make your weak group safe.

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Post #156 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:29 am 
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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And, the fireworks begin.
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Post #157 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:35 am 
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Some of my thoughts:

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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . 5 1 2 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . 4 3 . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . 3 O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . 9 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X 8 X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . 2 3 5 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X 6 4 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . 9 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X 4 X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X 8 2 3 7 . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X 0 6 a . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If he can't play that move, he can't play locally in sente. I want to play in that corner, but:

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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O 2 . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . 1 a . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This doesn't help me much, and if I ply "a" as well, it's gote and I have given him too important a sente move for those 10 points or so. The middle is urgent, this is just big.


further thoughts:

Though, in hindsight, my last move was terrible. I was hoping to get miai of attacking that group or building the top right:

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[go]$$Bcm89 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . 1 . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


but that's too small for a while, especially with the lower right. Better would have been:

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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . 1 , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I also looked at the peep, but I think he won't respond as he can use the aji on the right too easily to worry about that stone being cut off:

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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 93: magicwand (4d) vs topazg (1d)
Post #158 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:27 am 
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I was worried the world had gone mad for a few moments there.

Bonus challenge: Convince Magicwand this was a good move.

PS: When I said eat before, I meant eat, not eat.

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Post #159 Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:43 am 
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topazg
I was worried the world had gone mad for a few moments there.

Bonus challenge: Convince Magicwand this was a good move.

PS: When I said eat before, I meant eat, not eat.


Yeah, I'm in a bit of a pickle now. My Q7 tesuji doesn't work, the lower right is really big, and my hope of points in the middle is dwindling. If I fail to get something big out of this fight, I'm now at least 15 points behind. He's a handy player that magicwand :)

:b89: has cost me quite badly.
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[go]$$Bcm91 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X . O . O . . X O . . O X . , . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . X O . . X X O . X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . X X . X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O . O . X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X X . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | X O X . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . X . . . X . . |
$$ | . O O . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . O . X X . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O X O X X O X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O . . X X X X O O O O X . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . X O . O . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . . O . X . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i think my opponent is stronger than i am in fuseki.
but this kind of attack is....not good.
i am sure he had a chance to take advantage of my weakness.
he played two wild untamed questionable moves in a row..

for skds: when you are ahead..dont want any complication and you dont know how to settle your group.
PROBE!!
i am asking how is he going to answer my probe. (is is also ladder maker)
he certinly can not capture everything because of bad aji.
and if he back down...i am still happy and minimize his influence. (hopefully in sente)
focus of this game now is lower right corner..
if i get sente and go there first...game is over so i am thinking he is having taugh time deciding what to play

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