Edit: Sorry, no komi. Jigo is not a win.
Enjoy!
OC, feedback welcome.
Yet another old problem
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Yet another old problem
Maybe this one is easier, or maybe not.
Edit: Sorry, no komi. Jigo is not a win.
Enjoy!
OC, feedback welcome.
Edit: Sorry, no komi. Jigo is not a win.
Enjoy!
OC, feedback welcome.
Last edited by Bill Spight on Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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, 
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at a, b, c.
is mandatory, otherwise black dies. Then White can play the a-b exchange before taking tedomari at c. -
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Re: Yet another old problem
Every time I see a sequence and try starting to write it down I notice how black can counter 
and 
are a must, I don't see any sequence that works for either player if they miss these plays. Now, if black blocks at 4 he loses, but if he takes the stone at 5, Whites only option is to start pushing down the black corridor. If black does likewise, white will get the last play and make the two marked points in the corner. It should be Jigo.
ruins whites chances. If he blocks he will reach a jigo. Trying to push down the corridors doesn't work because they are now the same length. Yes, white ends with sente, but there are no plays left and trying to change the sequence will just allow black to get some huge plays like 1.While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
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Re: Yet another old problem
feedback:
this time i was more careful and spent close to 1 min to analize and check my initial thought.
my initial thought is correct and white win my 1.
very intresting problems.
you should write a book on endgame and publish it using such examples.
if it is too much problem publishing it, at least pdf it and sell it to the member in L19.
this time i was more careful and spent close to 1 min to analize and check my initial thought.
my initial thought is correct and white win my 1.
very intresting problems.
you should write a book on endgame and publish it using such examples.
if it is too much problem publishing it, at least pdf it and sell it to the member in L19.
"The more we think we know about
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
The greater the unknown"
Words by neil peart, music by geddy lee and alex lifeson
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Re: Yet another old problem
Mnemonic wrote:
Now you know what does not work.
Hint:
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: Yet another old problem
Magicwand wrote:feedback:
this time i was more careful and spent close to 1 min to analize and check my initial thought.
my initial thought is correct and white win my 1.
very intresting problems.
you should write a book on endgame and publish it using such examples.
if it is too much problem publishing it, at least pdf it and sell it to the member in L19.
Thank you, Magicwand.
I am glad you find them interesting. I had thought that the lack of tesuji made them relatively uninteresting, but I am rethinking that. And after all, if I don't write such a book, who will?
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: Yet another old problem
@ Bill Spight
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
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Re: Yet another old problem
@ Mnemonic
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: Yet another old problem
I thought this problem was harder. My first attempt I got jigo, so I sat down and thought about it. (I know I also got your first problem wrong, but that was only because of a silly mistake! 
)
Please, let me know if I made any errors in my solution for this problem.
)Please, let me know if I made any errors in my solution for this problem.
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Re: Yet another old problem
@ mw42
You solved the problem, but the calculations are a bit tricky. I'll post them later.
You solved the problem, but the calculations are a bit tricky. I'll post them later.
The Adkins Principle:
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
At some point, doesn't thinking have to go on?
— Winona Adkins
Visualize whirled peas.
Everything with love. Stay safe.
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Re: Yet another old problem
Bill Spight wrote:@ mw42
You solved the problem, but the calculations are a bit tricky. I'll post them later.
I look forward to the post. I've never done endgame problems before so these are certainly a learning experience.-
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Re: Yet another old problem
Bill Spight wrote:Maybe this one is easier, or maybe not.
(I suspect this is wrong - please mark my errors in red). 
feedback welcome.
Even if I got it wrong, having fewer options than the last problem made me willing to tackle it.
Patience, grasshopper.