ASR 2011 winter tournament!

[stalkor]

Dear ASR tournament players, today, 1 february 2011, we kick off the winter tournament!

Our great programmer frango has made a special site for the tournament (which is still not completely done but it will be:)) which you can find here. (link)

I want to stress very much you abide ALL the rules in the tournament, because if you mess up 1 setting or don't say "ASR tournament" BOTH, it will not register as a tournament game!

You can find your pairing for the first round on the site so go there and get cracking!
It's nice to use this thread to post when you're going to play so we can watch if we want to:)

The first round lasts until the 14th, the 15th we will start the next round so finish BEFORE then! If you havent played one of the players has to resign from the tournament BEFORE the next round or BOTH players will be eliminated.

I wish you all the luck and have fun in the tournament!

[Phelan]

I'm playing belettego this friday, at 19h GMT.

[jdl]

...or don't say "ASR tournament" BOTH

You might want to update the rules, since this isn't mentioned anywhere.

[stalkor]

...or don't say "ASR tournament" BOTH

You might want to update the rules, since this isn't mentioned anywhere.

http://asrleague.com/rules.html yes it is:)

[jdl]

Cheating! That wasn't there the last time I looked.

FYI
Goldskibum and I are going to try to play tonight. Probably ~02:30 GMT.

[jdl]

Where do we view the results?

[stalkor]

on the site the results will be visible shortly on the site, were still working on it:) no worries though, the game you played will be visible:)

[musai]

I have a problem to contact my opponent for the first round of the tournament. He hasn't been online from Jan 25 both here and on KGS. Also, he wasn't active during the January League. Left him messages on KGS and here.

Due to this situation, I thought about figuring out a rule that will prevent such situations during the tournament (this is likely to happen every time a new Group starts its games in the tournaments).

My proposal is to oblige players to contact each other and set up the date of the game (not strict, but at least arrive to some approximate agreement) during the first week of the two-week time allotted for the round. If one of the players cannot be contacted during this time, and the second one is active and it is obvious that he tried hard enough to reach his opponent, he/she should be replaced by a player from the reserve list (hopefully there will be enough players). They will need to complete the game during the remaining week (a bit stressful, but possible).

Now, rereading and thinking a bit more i see that my proposal has its pitfalls, but it is good enough as a starting point to open a discussion.

[Li Kao]

alrobin an I are playing just now
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Game finished:
[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[LiKao]PB[alrobin]WR[4k]BR[9k]DT[2011-02-06]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[alrobin [9k\]: hi
alrobin [9k\]: good game
LiKao [4k\]: hfave fun and good luck
LiKao [4k\]: ASR tournament
alrobin [9k\]: ASR Tournament
alrobin [9k\]: yes
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[2381.561]
;W[pp]WL[2360.286]
;B[dd]BL[2370.123]
;W[dp]WL[2357.266]
;B[qn]BL[2357.91]
;W[pl]WL[2349.999]
;B[qq]BL[2340.96]
;W[qp]WL[2337.14]
;B[pq]BL[2317.234]
;W[op]WL[2280.943]
;B[rp]BL[2280.333]
;W[ro]WL[2272.493]
;B[rq]BL[2275.319]
;W[qo]WL[2270.905]
;B[nq]BL[2263.123]
;W[pf]WL[2263.581]
;B[nc]BL[2233.351]
;W[nf]WL[2250.37]
;B[fq]BL[2187.057]C[musai [7k\]: players, do you see this text?
]
;W[cm]WL[2215.088]
;B[np]BL[2181.829]
;W[no]WL[2202.935]
;B[jp]BL[2160.812]
;W[oq]WL[2180.89]
;B[or]BL[2154.29]
;W[lp]WL[2177.092]
;B[lq]BL[2147.511]
;W[kq]WL[2098.863]C[LiKao [4k\]: that move feels a bit overplayish to me
LiKao [4k\]: not sure what to do against it though
]
;B[lr]BL[2136.85]
;W[kp]WL[2093.187]
;B[mp]BL[2132.055]C[alrobin [9k\]: this was a mistake
LiKao [4k\]: n4 looks bad
alrobin [9k\]: empty triangle
LiKao [4k\]: probably worse than passing
alrobin [9k\]: yes
]
;W[mo]WL[2090.542]
;B[cf]BL[2118.682]C[alrobin [9k\]: I missed it completely
]
;W[nr]WL[2076.569]C[tugboat [8k\]: players cannot see the test. just observers
tugboat [8k\]: *text
]
;B[mr]BL[2078.393]
;W[ns]WL[2058.64]
;B[jr]BL[1968.342]
;W[kr]WL[2039.425]C[alrobin [9k\]: maybe k3
LiKao [4k\]: perhaps tenuki and make points elsewher
]
(;B[ks]BL[1959.485]
;W[ls]WL[2029.499]C[gryn [3k?\]: instead of m1 just k3
gryn [3k?\]: then take the 3 stones and don't worry about the other 3
]
;B[ps]BL[1914.928]
;W[jo]WL[2023.937]
;B[jq]BL[1840.304]
;W[io]WL[2011.588]
(;B[so]BL[1796.733]
;W[rn]WL[1996.541]
;B[sn]BL[1787.012]C[alrobin [9k\]:
]
;W[sm]WL[1978.316]
;B[sp]BL[1784.723]
;W[rm]WL[1977.39]
;B[rr]BL[1728.612]
;W[hq]WL[1968.164]
;B[hr]BL[1712.898]C[LiKao [4k\]: not sure what's right here
]
;W[gr]WL[1953.395]C[LiKao [4k\]: g2 might be overplay
]
(;B[ip]BL[1622.281]
;W[hp]WL[1939.403]C[LiKao [4k\]: but I don't think j4 is the right answer
]
;B[ho]BL[1617.665]
;W[go]WL[1905.524]
;B[hn]BL[1612.298]C[alrobin [9k\]: hi, Al
gryn [3k?\]: h5 is not a good exchange, now you have to n3
gryn [3k?\]: g5*
]
;W[gq]WL[1858.699]C[gryn [3k?\]: now l5
]
;B[ko]BL[1602.69]C[LiKao [4k\]: totally missed that one
tugboat [8k\]: I remember it as th eagle's nest - a bit tricky none the less when you are under pressure
alrobin [9k\]: this was my only good play in the game
LiKao [4k\]: that's why I considered not playing the crane's nest
LiKao [4k\]: but it looked like the aji could be handled
alrobin [9k\]: but then I played poorly from here
LiKao [4k\]: so I couldn't let the opportunity pass
]
;W[lo]WL[1812.594]C[alrobin [9k\]: right
]
;B[kn]BL[1599.977]
;W[jm]WL[1786.361]
;B[jn]BL[1596.569]
;W[im]WL[1784.527]
;B[in]BL[1593.529]
;W[ll]WL[1781.902]
;B[gn]BL[1586.553]
;W[fo]WL[1777.501]
;B[fn]BL[1551.481]
;W[en]WL[1770.044]
;B[eo]BL[1532.945]
;W[do]WL[1757.066]
;B[ep]BL[1517.27]
;W[eq]WL[1750.82]
;B[em]BL[1486.23]
;W[dn]WL[1746.002]
;B[fl]BL[1480.702]
;W[ic]WL[1713.462]
;B[kc]BL[1460.136]
;W[fc]WL[1711.917]
;B[ec]BL[1457.712]
;W[fd]WL[1708.577]
;B[fb]BL[1453.218]
;W[gb]WL[1706.657]
;B[db]BL[1444.219]
;W[kd]WL[1692.575]
;B[jc]BL[1437.995]
;W[jd]WL[1690.461]
;B[ld]BL[1424.946]
;W[le]WL[1689.197]
;B[md]BL[1416.107]
;W[lf]WL[1678.076]
;B[ck]BL[1396.74]
;W[hk]WL[1663.162]
;B[qe]BL[1392.789]
;W[qf]WL[1661.324]
;B[rd]BL[1386.714]
;W[ef]WL[1652.073]
;B[dh]BL[1360.37]
;W[fh]WL[1646.383]
;B[dm]BL[1354.233]
;W[cl]WL[1642.351]
;B[bk]BL[1345.33]
;W[dl]WL[1636.813]
;B[el]BL[1329.274]
;W[dk]WL[1626.387]
;B[dj]BL[1322.29]
;W[ej]WL[1621.143]
;B[ci]BL[1310.845]
;W[gl]WL[1614.87]
;B[ms]BL[1272.989]
;W[mq]WL[1610.458]
;B[iq]BL[1233.757]C[tugboat [8k\]: E 11 provides an in for black to the centre?
]
;W[fr]WL[1507.65]C[Phelan [6k\]: i think white can just block it
]
;B[is]BL[1223.35]
;W[gm]WL[1489.096]
;B[fm]BL[1210.207]C[Phelan [6k\]: at f11 or f10
]
;W[fj]WL[1463.301]
;B[dq]BL[1087.985]
;W[er]WL[1446.273]
;B[cq]BL[1056.795]
;W[bp]WL[1436.894]
;B[cp]BL[1045.71]
;W[bo]WL[1429.85]
;B[ek]BL[971.472]
;W[bq]WL[1384.54]
;B[am]BL[921.003]
;W[bn]WL[1361.617]C[AlGebr [3k\]: s2 is a mistake
Ojisama [3k?\]: expect aggressive overplay soon =)
]
;B[km]BL[869.357]
;W[kl]WL[1353.53]C[AlGebr [3k\]: W is more than ahead
]
;B[jl]BL[839.611]
;W[hm]WL[1338.814]
;B[jk]BL[834.231]
;W[fk]WL[1330.738]
;B[fi]BL[819.194]
;W[ei]WL[1327.513]
;B[gi]BL[817.033]
;W[lm]WL[1323.501]
;B[eh]BL[786.756]C[Marcus316 [3k\]: E12, please/.
Marcus316 [3k\]: oh, good
Marcus316 [3k\]:
]
;W[ij]WL[1310.977]
(;B[gh]BL[774.463]C[LiKao [4k\]: big thank you move
]
;W[fg]WL[1307.796]C[Marcus316 [3k\]: not so good there, though
]
;B[gg]BL[761.356]
;W[gf]WL[1305.144]
;B[ih]BL[757.752]
;W[ji]WL[1300.948]
;B[hf]BL[754.956]
;W[ge]WL[1298.326]C[AlGebr [3k\]: no chance to live here
]
;B[jf]BL[744.665]
;W[ie]WL[1291.304]
;B[if]BL[737.165]
;W[jh]WL[1286.729]
;B[jj]BL[718.506]
;W[ii]WL[1283.14]
;B[lj]BL[709.78]
;W[ib]WL[1266.857]
;B[jb]BL[703.584]
;W[fa]WL[1263.099]
;B[eb]BL[693.015]
;W[ja]WL[1259.676]
;B[lb]BL[688.417]
;W[de]WL[1246.218]
;B[ce]BL[685.39]
;W[rf]WL[1244.388]
;B[ln]BL[661.019]
;W[mn]WL[1241.935]
;B[nk]BL[653.655]
;W[nl]WL[1237.905]
;B[lk]BL[643.467]
;W[ni]WL[1235.173]
;B[kg]BL[639.6]
;W[li]WL[1229.374]
;B[mi]BL[625.86]
;W[lh]WL[1225.608]
;B[lg]BL[621.729]
;W[mh]WL[1217.21]
;B[mg]BL[612.79]
;W[ng]WL[1211.573]
;B[mf]BL[610.137]
;W[me]WL[1207.968]
;B[ne]BL[587.734]
;W[oe]WL[1205.571]
;B[nd]BL[583.075]
;W[ke]WL[1204.416]
;B[ee]BL[562.551]
;W[df]WL[1200.41]
;B[he]BL[528.021]
;W[hd]WL[1197.769]C[Ojisama [3k?\]: and SE crashes
]
;B[hj]BL[473.837]
;W[gj]WL[1176.274]
;B[hi]BL[471.642]
;W[ik]WL[1172.853]C[tugboat [8k\]: so close to life
Ojisama [3k?\]: still dead =)
Ojisama [3k?\]: zombies don't count in go =)
]
;B[oh]BL[331.814]
;W[nh]WL[1162.318]
;B[nj]BL[323.779]
;W[pj]WL[1139.199]
;B[oi]BL[315.681]
;W[oj]WL[1135.631]
;B[ml]BL[310.578]
;W[nm]WL[1115.356]
;B[og]BL[294.607]
;W[of]WL[1095.11]
;B[qh]BL[288.669]
;W[ph]WL[1084.934]
;B[pi]BL[283.581]
;W[qi]WL[1082.5]C[alrobin [9k\]: thanks for the game
LiKao [4k\]: thanks for the game
alrobin [9k\]: as usual, I ran out of liberties
LiKao [4k\]: where?
alrobin [9k\]: q13
alrobin [9k\]: crane's nest
])
(;B[fg]C[alrobin [9k\]: yep
]
;W[gh]
;B[gg]
;W[hh]
;B[eg]C[LiKao [4k\]: painful for me
alrobin [9k\]: not painful enough, though, I don't think
LiKao [4k\]: but perhaps since you were behind your move was better
alrobin [9k\]: from here I was just grasping at straws
LiKao [4k\]: the bottom was too painful for you
]))
(;B[gq]C[alrobin [9k\]: I was wondering about that move
]
;W[hp]
;B[ir])
(;B[hp]))
(;B[hq]C[LiKao [4k\]: perhaps around here to stabilize
alrobin [9k\]: yep
LiKao [4k\]: still annoying because it's gote
alrobin [9k\]: right
])
(;B[js]))
(;B[jq]
;W[ks]
(;B[kn])
(;B[jn])
(;B[fo]C[alrobin [9k\]: that looks pretty safe
LiKao [4k\]: not sure if corner lives yet
]
;W[pr]
;B[qr]
;W[os]C[alrobin [9k\]: no, after t2
]
;B[sr]C[alrobin [9k\]: I don't think it does
alrobin [9k\]: t4
]
(;W[rs]C[LiKao [4k\]: cu
alrobin [9k\]: you have control again
]
;B[qs]
;W[sp]
;B[rr]C[LiKao [4k\]: still dead
]
;W[ps]C[alrobin [9k\]: yes, that's what I meant
])
(;W[sp]C[alrobin [9k\]: no, you can't let me have s1
alrobin [9k\]: so play it first
LiKao [4k\]: you have control
alrobin [9k\]: threatens r1
]
;B[rs]
;W[ps]
;B[qs]
;W[so]
;B[sq]C[alrobin [9k\]: alive
LiKao [4k\]: t4 first looks wrong
]))))[/sgf-full]

I won

[stalkor]

I have a problem to contact my opponent for the first round of the tournament. He hasn't been online from Jan 25 both here and on KGS. Also, he wasn't active during the January League. Left him messages on KGS and here.

Due to this situation, I thought about figuring out a rule that will prevent such situations during the tournament (this is likely to happen every time a new Group starts its games in the tournaments).

My proposal is to oblige players to contact each other and set up the date of the game (not strict, but at least arrive to some approximate agreement) during the first week of the two-week time allotted for the round. If one of the players cannot be contacted during this time, and the second one is active and it is obvious that he tried hard enough to reach his opponent, he/she should be replaced by a player from the reserve list (hopefully there will be enough players). They will need to complete the game during the remaining week (a bit stressful, but possible).

Now, rereading and thinking a bit more i see that my proposal has its pitfalls, but it is good enough as a starting point to open a discussion.

if an opponent is not online during the time a round lasts then the player needs to contact me. This player then gets an automatic win. The reserve list is meant for players who actually drop out before the round starts.

On another note, you might have seen that the site has no results yet and thats because frango his harddrive crashed and he forgot to backup:( he told me he would be up to date when the next round begins so dont worry:)

[musai]

Round 1 match
musai vs. Koroviev
Will be played at 6pm GMT on Thursday, Feb 10

The exact time is subject to change

UPD:

And here is the game, your comments are welcome:

[sgf-full]http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/download/file.php?id=706[/sgf-full]

[belettego]

This is the round 1 match
Phelan (6k[KGS]) vs. belettego (12k[KGS])
from February 8th.

[sgf-full]http://files.gokgs.com/games/2011/2/4/Phelan-belettego.sgf[/sgf-full]

[markeemark]

Hi Stalkor

Now that I have found details, Im looking at playing it with jts by next sunday,

If thats too late ill resign unfortunately.

Thanks

markeemark

[Phelan]

Are the new pairings up elsewhere? Or are you going to extend the deadline due to the technical problems?

[stalkor]

unfortunately markeemark you have to play within the set time available for the tournament so you have to play today or resign from the tournament.

the next pairing will be up tonight/tomorrow, we will see to it that its available a bit sooner next round:P