21. Magicwand (3d) vs. wms (1d)

oren · Post by **oren** » Tue May 04, 2010 9:58 am

He's just clarifying the default "private" operation there as opposed to some that are meant to be read by certain "friend" people.

Post by **Solomon** » Tue May 04, 2010 10:02 am

wms wrote:Araban - isn't is *always* for observers only when people comment hidden? (Unless it specifically says it's for a player).

I know I haven't been seeing any of them...

Yeah, guess the comment was a bit redundant; but I guess the re-iteration can't hurt

. Hope it doesn't tempt you to look, cause if you do...

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue May 04, 2010 12:54 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Move 55 FOREVER! $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . X O X . . . O . X O O O X O O . | $$ | . . O O O X . . . , . O O X . X O X X | $$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . X X . X X O . | $$ | . O X O O O X X X O . O X . . X O O . | $$ | . . X X . O O . X X O X . . X O . . . | $$ | . . X . X X O O O X O X O . . O . . . | $$ | . . . O W O X O X X O X . X . X O . . | $$ | . . . , . X X O X O . O X . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . X O O . . . O . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . X O . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . X X O . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O . X . O X . O , . X . . . O . . . | $$ | . . O . X X O O . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . X . . X . X O . . . O . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue May 04, 2010 3:08 pm

okok...i actually try to read this problem and solve.
it is not easy. the problem is bigger than it seems.

short answer : ko.
but way more complicated because it is intertwined with top black group.

i will play as below and leave the ko aji alone for a while.
depends on what he plays i will decide if i am going to activate the ko aji.

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Tue May 04, 2010 5:00 pm

wms · Post by **wms** » Tue May 04, 2010 11:27 pm

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed May 05, 2010 3:28 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed May 05, 2010 4:33 am

i think he is in big trouble now.
it all started with one little mistake marked black stone.
if he answered at "a" there is nothing to worry about (may be some endgame aji and ko threats).
i didnt expect thismuch success there so all i expected was sente exchange of b and c.

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i have one (maybe two?) weak group that is attacking weak black group
there is no way he can save every group on the board because he is weak everywhere.
even the group on top right doesnt have 100%life (see below). which means the bottom group (or top left group) has to die.

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wms · Post by **wms** » Wed May 05, 2010 9:50 am

H'mmm, I had a move all ready, but now I see another option that I want to look into. Will have to wait until tonight when I can really think about it.

wms · Post by **wms** » Wed May 05, 2010 9:53 pm

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Thu May 06, 2010 2:26 am

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wms · Post by **wms** » Thu May 06, 2010 9:29 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Thu May 06, 2010 9:58 am

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wms · Post by **wms** » Thu May 06, 2010 10:09 am

Gotta think again - A9 or A8? Or maybe there is something I'm overlooking. So it will have to wait until tonight.

wms · Post by **wms** » Thu May 06, 2010 9:36 pm

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