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by EdLee Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:37 pm
@topazg:
topazg wrote: You have very definitive opinions for a 4k.
Let the stones do the talking.
I am super slow;
I drop 2-3 stones at "mickey mouse" tournament time controls.
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by topazg Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:59 pm
EdLee wrote: @topazg:
topazg wrote: You have very definitive opinions for a 4k.
Let the stones do the talking.
I am super slow;
I drop 2-3 stones at "mickey mouse" tournament time controls.
That still makes 1-2k ... I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just very aware that even as a dan player, my precision in variations is really spectacular poor compared to professional play. I have spotted a number of things on your variations that you seem to have missed, and disagree with your conclusions on some others (though going through to the nth iteration with further disagreements on here seems fruitless outside of the game in question), and I'm sure a high dan would do the same to me, and a pro would do the same to them.
It seems only appropriate to have some humility with ideas and variations, and your constant "sorry, you're wrong and I'm right, and this is why" is kind of getting to me. Perhaps I shouldn't let it, but particularly in an educational context, I don't see false certainty as particularly constructive. It's something I've always admired about Bill, who not only puts forward really good variations and ideas, but does it in an impressively humble manner for someone so strong.
EDIT: Having calmed down a bit, I also want to stress that I do value your thoughts, ideas, and variations. Even when I disagree, it's really good having as much input as possible
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by Magicwand Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:18 pm
topazg:
appears to be correct. your knight move is completely wrong. it is like.."exit is this way. please go out and save yourself" move.
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by topazg Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:29 pm
@magicwand:
I apologise, I obviously wasn't very clear. I wasn't suggesting the knight's move as the way that Black should play, just that it is a more common shape, and that I believe the alternative suggested by Ed to be too thin. For what it is worth, my reading was:
$$Bc Black's walls seem too close to me
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on the other side either:
$$Bc White seems ok here as well?
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by Magicwand Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:41 pm
toapzg:
in my opinion your reading is limited to cutting.
i can think of many different way to answer
that is better than your variation and is good for black.
i am not going to say Ed's move is correct but it appears to be correct.
imo it is not thin. it is very solid (in different persepective).
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by topazg Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:45 pm
@MW:
Magicwand wrote: toapzg:
in my opinion your reading is limited to cutting.
i can think of many different way to answer
that is better than your variation and is good for black.
i am not going to say Ed's move is correct but it appears to be correct.
imo it is not thin. it is very solid (in different persepective).
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by Magicwand Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:51 pm
topazg:
i am sorry for trying to lecture you while you are strong as me.
your reading is probably better than mine
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by topazg Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:57 pm
Magicwand wrote: topazg:
i am sorry for trying to lecture you while you are strong as me.
your reading is probably better than mine
Hehe, one day I hope that might be true, you are definitely a stronger player than I am
I'd happily trade my skills for yours in a situation like this one, this is the kind of position where you end up killing things from nowhere!
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by Sevis Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:33 pm
$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by Puppycakes Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:21 am
I thought Ed Lee was 3d or 4d.
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by topazg Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:43 am
$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by unkx80 Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:53 am
Comment open to all.
$$Wc Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by Sevis Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:22 am
$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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by topazg Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:05 pm
$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
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I am super slow;
appears to be correct. your knight move is completely wrong. it is like.."exit is this way. please go out and save yourself" move.
on the other side either:
that is better than your variation and is good for black.
at a.