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Post #121 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:11 pm 
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Enjoying the game!

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Post #122 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 5:30 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
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[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . B . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



This seems premature. Were I black, I would have played this first:

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[go]$$Bcm49 Move 49 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


White can't let black have C13, and has to play something like C14 himself. But the coming fight is going to be in the center, and black's move will be worth more than white's.

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Post #123 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:16 pm 
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my move is looking for below miai a and b. i think even weaker players will see this much.
1 was needed i think. (am not sure why but i felt this exchange was needed before i try below move)
if i am wrong..at least it appears to be professional play and looking good. playing here and there.

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[go]$$Wcm - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X b . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . 3 4 . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 5 O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X 1 . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . a 2 . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #124 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:42 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm53 Move 53 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X B . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


There is not much to say about this move, except that it seems best by my reading. The objective that I have is clear. Hopefully, I have read far enough.

This is an exciting game for me.

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Post #125 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 7:56 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm54 Move 54 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O W . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #126 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:59 pm 
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...Malkovichingly...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

welcome back Keith, you've been missed! :)

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I think you guys are going to enjoy the observer's comments as much as we've been enjoying watching your game :)

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Post #127 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:57 pm 
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Ugh... watching this game frustrates me to no end.

I hate Magicwand's style. I hate his attitude towards players, I hate the reasoning he gives for most of his moves, and how he happens to get away with so much in this game because I feel Kirby is getting intimidated by the bully.

Mind you, I don't hate Magicwand, it's simply what he represents, the club player who plays on instinct and reading, but always has inconsistent thinking. There was a time when I tried to get stronger by playing such players, but I would never grow conceptually. I would never have games where the outcome was decided because my opening and endgame skill was higher(though often true), it was only because I outfought in the middlegame, because these kinds of players will overplay, overplay, and overplay, until the game is simply one huge fight.

And then they review. They always assert that their moves were rooted firmly in their intuition, so whether or not they were correct or not is usually irrelevant to them, because they're so reliant on intuition that they are usually willing to accept their mistakes and lack of understanding of Go theory because they are satisfied with the way they currently play.

Playing against people like that only seems to strengthen your reading and fighting shape. You never really learn new tricks, sharpen your endgame, or develop opening prowess, the game is essentially all middlegame.

And it pains me so much because I've met Mr. Kirby. And I've seen Mr. Kirby play. He's an honest player who looks straight at the board and tries to rationally come up with each move. He's been using this method to get stronger for quite some time, and it always pains me to see a rational, thinking type player, who establishes an early lead and dominating position get beaten by a stronger player who leaves many openings and chances for punishment, but still wins in the end.

Man... if Kirby doesn't win this game, I might have to play a game with Magicwand over this summer.

The first thing that came to my head when I read Violence's comment:
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Post #128 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 11:00 pm 
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Violence wrote:
Ugh... watching this game frustrates me to no end.

I hate Magicwand's style. I hate his attitude towards players, I hate the reasoning he gives for most of his moves, and how he happens to get away with so much in this game because I feel Kirby is getting intimidated by the bully.

Mind you, I don't hate Magicwand, it's simply what he represents, the club player who plays on instinct and reading, but always has inconsistent thinking. There was a time when I tried to get stronger by playing such players, but I would never grow conceptually. I would never have games where the outcome was decided because my opening and endgame skill was higher(though often true), it was only because I outfought in the middlegame, because these kinds of players will overplay, overplay, and overplay, until the game is simply one huge fight.

And then they review. They always assert that their moves were rooted firmly in their intuition, so whether or not they were correct or not is usually irrelevant to them, because they're so reliant on intuition that they are usually willing to accept their mistakes and lack of understanding of Go theory because they are satisfied with the way they currently play.

Playing against people like that only seems to strengthen your reading and fighting shape. You never really learn new tricks, sharpen your endgame, or develop opening prowess, the game is essentially all middlegame.

And it pains me so much because I've met Mr. Kirby. And I've seen Mr. Kirby play. He's an honest player who looks straight at the board and tries to rationally come up with each move. He's been using this method to get stronger for quite some time, and it always pains me to see a rational, thinking type player, who establishes an early lead and dominating position get beaten by a stronger player who leaves many openings and chances for punishment, but still wins in the end.

Man... if Kirby doesn't win this game, I might have to play a game with Magicwand over this summer.

The first thing that came to my head when I read Violence's comment:
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Magicwand
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Wow! I haven't watched that in forever. Awesome man!

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Post #129 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 8:57 am 
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[go]$$Bcm55 Move 55 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O B . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm not totally sure that I can get a good result out of this, but I think I need to start with this.

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Post #130 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:02 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm56 Move 56 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . W O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #131 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 1:13 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm57 Move 57 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . B X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Going along with what I've come up with so far...

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Post #132 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:05 pm 
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I'd much prefer this, so "a" isn't so awkward to handle:

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[go]$$Bcm57 Move 57 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . . X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . B . X a . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #133 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:08 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm58 Move 58 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X W . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

not what i exptected. but...i think i am ok.

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Post #134 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:12 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm59 Move 59 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O . X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to protect my stone from being cut off. By the way, I think that this type of connection is easier for making eyes.

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Post #135 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:17 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm60 Move 60 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O W X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

change of plan...i will attack corner and capture them if he doesnt reply.
his reading is ok...but sometimes he plays a move that is ..... kyuish.

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Post #136 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:18 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Move 61 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . B O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Continuing with the sequence I read out...

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Post #137 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:21 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm61 Move 61 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O W O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

edit:
i will be back 1 hour later after taking my kids to pool.

i dont know what he is thinking but...he must read that i would answer there.
i am alive and his corner life will be ko if he doesnt answer.

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Post #138 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 2:24 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm63 Move 63 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . B . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No comment here...

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Post #139 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:34 pm 
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I'm glad that I could get a ko in the corner (if I didn't make a mistake). I want to use the ko to strengthen my left group, and also to get a big tenuki, if possible.

Here's a rough possibility of what I want:


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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . 2 O X X X . X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . 9 O O O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | 8 1 . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | 3 5 6 X O 4 . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm10
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X b O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . 1 X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | a X O X X X . X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | 2 O O O O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | X O . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | 3 X X O O X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | O O X X O X . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to fight the ko and get "a" and "b" in sente. If I can do that, I think that I can risk tenuki-ing from my weak group on the left.

I want to take a big point in tenuki-ing to try to close the gap on the score.

I still can't get a ton of points with my bottom stones. Hopefully I can get 20ish. If I can get 20 points or so there, and maybe 12 or so on the top, probably less than 5 in the top right corner... That comes to about 37 points. When white kills my corner group, he'll have around 25ish there, around 12 on the right, and a few points in the center.

This means that I need to get more points than white on the top-left side with my tenuki if I want to win this game. This is going to be very, very difficult since my group on the left is weak. But there is a chance that it could work out, so I'm going to keep trying.

As a last resort, maybe I'll try to make more than 20 points in the center, but that might also be difficult.

I think that the odds are stacked against me, but I'm going to try to try this strategy.

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Post #140 Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 3:38 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm64 Move 64 - Prisoners: B=0, W=0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . X . X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X X . O . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O X X X . X . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O O O O X . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . W . . . X . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . . . . X . . . . . X . O . |
$$ | . X X O O X . . . . . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

now he has to answer corner or it will be ko.
i hope he knows. if ko...its like white 98% alive

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