108: Puppycakes (3k) vs. mw42 (2k)

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:59 pm

Puppycakes · Post by **Puppycakes** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:06 pm

Well, I went back and read your comments already because I figured I could.

I like the idea of discussing this tsumego, though.

I almost played this, but then didn't like this:

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mw42 · Post by **mw42** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:07 pm

@EdLee

@Puppycakes

If it is your decision to stick with the resign, then I feel I stole this from you. You definitely had me on the ropes with this group. I was too bold, and you played against my invasion very well.

Did you consider this move?

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If W(a) then B(c) surrounds and kills, I believe. If W(b) then B(d). After :b85:

I think white is hopeless.

Puppycakes · Post by **Puppycakes** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:14 pm

mw42 wrote:@EdLee
I believe that's why he resigned. He moved to quickly and realized his mistake before I even made my move.

@Puppycakes

If it is your decision to stick with the resign, then I feel I stole this from you. You definitely had me on the ropes with this group. I was too bold, and you played against my invasion very well.

Did you consider this move?

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If W(a) then B(c) surrounds and kills, I believe. If W(b) then B(d). After I think white is hopeless.

That's the sequence that I was going to play, but then I read that it didn't work and now I see that I simply hallucinated something up.

mw42 · Post by **mw42** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:17 pm

Indeed, your sequence was what I was expecting.

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If (a) then I believe I could live.

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If (b) then perhaps something like this

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Your sequence for (c) was similar to mine and is the most complicated. This is why I avoided it when running was possible and was planning to resort to it as a last ditch effort when I got myself into trouble.

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 8:31 pm

Puppycakes,

mw42 · Post by **mw42** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:34 am

EdLee wrote:Puppycakes,
Puppycakes wrote:I just realized that I think with this, he lives
What if... at (a) more fighting?
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Why not

at (b)?

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Thanks for the game, Puppycakes, if we do play again perhaps it should be even. I think you are at least as strong as me. :salute:

Puppycakes · Post by **Puppycakes** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:00 am

mw42 wrote:
EdLee wrote:Puppycakes,
Puppycakes wrote:I just realized that I think with this, he lives
What if... at (a) more fighting?
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Why not at (b)?

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Thanks for the game, Puppycakes, if we do play again perhaps it should be even. I think you are at least as strong as me.

I'd love to play again. Also. I think I'd love to see comments on this game.

aurik · Post by **aurik** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:55 am

Keep in mind that I'm not any stronger than you guys so don't take my comments as correct...just my weak opinion.

* Unless my reading is wrong (which happens quite often, so double-check me!) B9 in that diagram is failing to kill in gote, W doesn't even need to play @ 'b' yet.

* In retrospect, I didn't really like 45. The moyo is a bit too open. I also don't really like trying to build a moyo with non-forcing moves. I would prefer moves that take contested territory as long as they are available; 46 seemed like to be a sharp response.

* I think 70 would have been better played directly at 74. B's most aggressive response locally still seems to be 71, but you aren't trading 72 for 73+75+1 white prisoner, and the sequence remains playable later.

* If there wasn't local life already at that point, cutting at E7 (hane at the foot instead of hane at the head) at 80 would have lead to a very interesting fight.

* 79 @ C8 indead of B7 looks like an interesting attack, might have been sufficient to kill locally and lead to the running fight.

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:33 pm

mw42,

mw42 wrote:Why not at (b)?

You're right; that variation was wrong.

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Maybe this is better for :b5:

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mw42 · Post by **mw42** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:35 pm

@EdLee

I saw this and was planning on making this sacrifice if necessary.

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This is a big loss which is why I chose to play :wc:

when I did.

The order I was looking at though, was like this

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