100. tj86430 (4k) vs. jts (6k)

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Re: 100. tj86430 (4k) vs. jts (6k)

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Ugh, I think it was a mistake. Malkovich games leave way too much time for diffidence to assert itself.
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I'm sorry, I have been sick with the flu and it has taken my ability to concentrate on this.

I couldn't figure out a way to accomplish something useful in the corner, so I have to take what I can on the side. I'm expecting this:

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After which I'm not sure what he will do.
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So far, according to plan. The next move is up to him. I could look for an awesome forcing move to play first, but... meh. I'd rather get this game going again than spend two days being petty.
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As planned
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Gah, I keep changing my mind about this. I think it's best to preserve whatever aji J17 has, if I can. The downside is that this move is sort of gote; the upside is that he can't just keep pushing without endangering N15.
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In case anyone is wondering what my larger-picture strategic thinking is: above the arrow, I am progressively screwing things up, although I still have the potential to do okay if (i) my UL corner lives, (ii) my cutting stones live for now, (iii) I get to make some territory on the right side while attacking his cutting stones. Below the line, it looks like I got two handicap stones. My main strategic goal - get a non-disastrous result above the arrow, get 2 out of C3, O5, and K10. My second-best - tenuki from a disastrous situation above the line, fight for 80% of the territory below the line.
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I'll go with my intuition and see what unfolds
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I think I need to push once more before I can hane. Which is unfortunate, because once his stones get to six liberties they're out of immediate danger.

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$$ | . . O O O . . . O X . . O . . . . . . |
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I'm gonna have to think about this for a while.
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Unfortunately I haven't had time to concentrate on this, so I will play a move I would probably play with normal time limits.

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$$ | . O . X . X . . O X . X X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . O X . . O . . . . . . |
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I think I have two urgent things to do: to settle my top group and to do something about the two cutting stones. I think the top is more urgent. I don't really know what is the best move locally, but this is my intuition.

E17 looks like an interesting alternative, but I think I will be screwed if black blocks at F17
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Re: 100. tj86430 (4k) vs. jts (6k)

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Oops. Thought I was waiting for you...


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$$ | . O . X . X . . O X . X X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . . . O X . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . 4 X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Big move, can he kill the corner in one move? I doubt it, he'd have to start with B17 and then I could J17 and all hell would break loose. Now I need to figure out how to make a moyo in sente.
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Re: 100. tj86430 (4k) vs. jts (6k)

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[go]$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . O . . O X . . O . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . X . . O X . X X O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O X . . O X X . . . . |
$$ | . . O O O . 5 . O X . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . X X . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm still going with pretty much my instinct. He can seal me in, and he will have a huge framework, but it's still invadable (lots of options in fact). I will OTOH seriously threaten his upper left corner (at least I hope).
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