Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Joaz Banbeck wrote:Do we have an accurate prisoner count now?

If you guys are gonna make me post this a third time ... :batman:

I mean I even posted the correct code! How much more can a man do?
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Oh, JTS is fine. Sad that Gresil's idled, but life is important. Enjoy the mess you've signed up for. =)
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Mnemonic wrote:
Joaz Banbeck wrote:Do we have an accurate prisoner count now?

If you guys are gonna make me post this a third time ... :batman:

I mean I even posted the correct code! How much more can a man do?

Ah, ok. So B has 11 captures and 60 prisoners (if my move is accepted), and W has 1 capture and 64 prisoners. Shall we accept shapenaji's suggestion, and only track prisoners from here on out?
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I don't really care either way, worst case scenario, we count Chinese and backtrack all of the changes the upper level players have made.

Also, I've never seen a sledge go later than second pick. I've never had the luxury of multiple sledges. You sack.

But multiple Fangrens? That's like every other draft for me.

I should really make an off topic thread for this.

Also, approved.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm134 Move 136 W65 B60
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . W . O X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X O X . O O X X . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X . O O . X O O O |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . B X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Time to live, I suppose. So, it looks like we can threaten this group a little, and then we need to make some points on bottom with our thickness. Or perhaps we can start a fight in the middle, or something. Regardless, living is first.


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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I approve.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I approve
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm134 Move 137 W65 B60
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O . X O O O |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is by far the best move. If W doesn't play O16, we can connect and then (I think) he has to live in gote. If W responds, we get L18.

I haven't read out exactly how we're going to live. Our potential eyespace is small, and W has four different moves to reduce it. I'm pretty sure, though, that we can protect our eyespace as it stands with moves that threaten to kill W.

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[go]$$Wcm134 Move 137 W65 B60
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . a . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X a a . O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X a a a X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X . X . O O X X . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O . X O O O |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Not for players until upper side is settled:

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[go]$$Wc
$$ ------------------------------+
$$ . . . O . . . . . 4 8 9 . . . |
$$ O . O X . . 6 O 5 O X 7 0 . . |
$$ . O X X . . . X O 3 O X X . . |
$$ O X O X . X X . X 1 O O X X . |
$$ . X O O X O X X O O 2 X O O O |
$$ . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X |
$$ . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X |
$$ . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X |[/go]


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[go]$$Wc
$$ ------------------------------+
$$ . . 5 O 4 . 3 . 1 . 2 O . . . |
$$ O . O X 6 . X O O O . O X . . |
$$ . O X X . . . X O O O X X . . |
$$ O X O X . X X . X O O O X X . |
$$ . X O O X O X X O O X X O O O |
$$ . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X |
$$ . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X |
$$ . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X |
$$ . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . |
$$ X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X |[/go]


W seems far behind
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Cyclops:
White will 100% start the ko. Black's life is threatened as well, and there is no ko threat big enough.
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[go]$$Wcm134 Move 1 W65 B60
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O O . O X . . . O . O X . . . . |
$$ | . X O O . O X X . . . X O . O X X . . |
$$ | . X X O O X O X . X X 3 X 1 O O X X . |
$$ | X X O X . X O O X O X B O O 2 X O O O |
$$ | . O O X . . . O . O X O O X X X X X X |
$$ | . . O X . . X . O . X O X . . . . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O X X O X X X X . X X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . O . X X O O X X . . . |
$$ | . X X O X . X . . O O O O X O X X . X |
$$ | . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X . . . . . . O X X |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . O . . . , . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


So black will connect, and White will live in sente:
Edit: Just realized I didn't know how Black can live... need to do more reading.
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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Whose turn is it now?
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I believe that it is Topazg's move.

EDIT: Ooops, I forgot that Daniel the Smith had replaced him. Sorry, Daniel.
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Daniel's, you mean~
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Re: Big Brother Malkovich # 1 (continued)

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I was going to think some more, but what the heck. I'll approve.
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