115 - robinz v. 1986

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:30 am

For beginners, otherwise hidden until right side completely settled:

robinz · Post by **robinz** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:36 am

hehe, I am now terribly nervous that your post is along the lines of "that move was totally wrong, and even a beginner should be able to see that" :-?

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:38 am

robinz, you can read it soon enough.

1986 · Post by **1986** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:27 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm36 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm36 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 X 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . X 4 2 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

36: threatens the eye space on the group in the bottom right
37: is the counter aiming at atari of the stone
38: protect
39: contain

I had a much longer post explaining my move but the computer restarted and i lost it this is pretty much the gist of it though

i thought about some other sequence but i ruled them out because this sequence threatens a very important group for him and i can also take advantage of the stones in that area to keep black in
the corner

robinz · Post by **robinz** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:51 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm37 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

1986 · Post by **1986** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:02 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm38 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

robinz · Post by **robinz** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:06 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm39 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

emeraldemon · Post by **emeraldemon** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:19 am

1986 · Post by **1986** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:24 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm40 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . X X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Aphelion · Post by **Aphelion** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:31 am

robinz:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , B . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . W W . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Are the marked black stones doing more work than the marked white stones?

robinz · Post by **robinz** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:40 am

My next move will take me a while - I'm going to be busy tonight, and this will take quite some thinking about.

@Aphelion:

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:34 pm

For beginners, otherwise hidden until right side completely settled:

robinz · Post by **robinz** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:25 am

Apologies for taking a while (although I'm blaming 1986 for giving me so much to think about :lol:

). Here's my move, for better or for worse:

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OK, I suspect this looks a little strange at first glance - and I know from the comments addressed to me so far that many of you observers are already shaking your heads at my play so far, and doubtless will do so again over this move. So let me try to explain how I arrived at it.

The move he made looks to me like an attempt to connect his four stones to the living group below. Since my aim is to make some kind of profit by attacking them, I can't let that happen, at least not without a struggle. For example, if I play the move at O10 which I was considering before his previous few moves, he can just connect at either P6 or P7, and it's hard to see what further attack I have, while my one stone at O10 isn't doing very much for me on its own.

Indeed, I'm no longer convinced that this would have been the correct direction to play in any case. I must confess, I have problems with a lot of the proverbs about go strategy, which make some kind of sense when you see them explained, but which always seem (to me) to be hard to apply successfully in real game situations. Anyway, by playing from the top, I seem to be in danger of perpetrating the classic beginner error of trying to make territory from my thickness in the upper right. And, when chasing an opponents' group, it's usually considered best to chase them towards one's strength, not away from it. Broadly speaking, I am strong at the top, while he is strong at the bottom - so forcing him upwards in theory should be correct.

In any case, the knight's jump between the stones he played at moves 39 and 40 is easy to cut. The problem is, as I alluded to in my post last night, and have confirmed over my attempts to read some variations, is that my cutting stones end up being far weaker than the group I'm trying to attack, which rather limits what I can do as I have to nurse them, when I want to be attacking! For example:

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looks forced to me, but after :w44:

white is well on the run while my cutting stones look forlorn - I can probably make them escape easily enough, but it all takes too much time. (I'm not necessarily claiming that :w44:

is his best move here - but I have the same problem in all lines.)

That's not my only sequence to cut, but the other one, while not leaving me quite as weak as the above, suffers from much the same problem:

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- this is slightly better in that white also has to look after O6 (it's also a cutting stone; if I capture it I have no more weaknesses), but it's easy enough for him to protect and one extra move isn't going to make my cutting stone secure.

The move I've chosen, then, is an attempt to cut white somewhere, while avoiding being saddled with a very weak group of cutting stones. Essentially, it makes miai of cutting the knight's jump, as above, or cutting the two space jump which separates O6 from the live group below. For example, if white plays the natural (to me) cut at P5, he has to deal with:

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- which is so spectactularly good for me (particularly in comparison with the diagrams I gave above) that of course white won't allow it. But even white's better replies (at least, the ones I've seen), allow me to cut something and reach a position where I feel I have at least even chances to achieve something in the coming fight. For example (and I'm not claiming the following sequences represent best play by either side, there's just examples of the kind of thing that *might* happen):

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or

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Oh well. I'm done writing now - I'm sure it's mostly rubbish (as you can probably tell, I have no confidence whatsoever in my go right now), but at least it's a window on my messed-up view of the position

1986 · Post by **1986** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:15 am

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this is pretty much the only move I'm keeping my stones connected, keeping him contained, & building a wall, its also a proverb respond to attachment with a hane. i picked the hane on that side because it also helps build a wall but on the opposite side it wouldn't have the same effect.

quick var

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm42 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . 3 . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 2 X X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . 5 4 . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

the cross cut doesn't look that interesting it gives me a weak group to attack,
hmmn maybe a ladder
there are a lot of ways this can play out lets get more information first

robinz · Post by **robinz** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:45 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 1 X X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

OK, that's not a move I put into my diagrams above, although I certainly did consider it. It's admittedly much better for white than most of the outcomes I showed - but this is still better for me than the results I'd have got from cutting the knight's jump directly - because my O5 stone injects just enough aji for me to get an extra move in. This is what I expect:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm43 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . O X . . . . . . . O . O O O . | $$ | . . . O . X . . . X . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . X X . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 O X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O 1 X X X . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O . . O . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

- I've not quite decided yet where I'm going to put :b47:

(more reading needed), but there are several possibilities for me to look at, and I feel sure that at least one of them must lead to something decent. (Note that the ladder towards the upper-left is currently in my favour, if that ends up being important. Although admittedly the N8 net looks like it captures if I don't add a move. )

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