112. joppon v Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . 2 . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


To those about to rock ... we salute you!

Five groups, three of his, two of mine. I hope this works out to my advantage ...
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Re: 112. joppon v Marcus

Post by Laman »

interesting, if i were white i would feel rather troubled with this position. however, after some reading it seems that outcome of the fight might not be entirely clear...

first, i believe that black has to reinforce his upper group, otherwise it gets killed. 1 is the most optimistic move for this in my opinion (note that there are some variations for white if he answers 1 with 'a')
then pretty much depends on whether white can capture the black cutting stone and it appears that he cannot.
below is variation i inspected, where white plays 4 and let black decide between answering 'b' or helping his lone stone

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[go]$$Bcm1 Diagram 62-1
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . 1 a . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 4 W . . c , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but, as i realized later, white 1 doesn't capture, so black can happily answer on the left:

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[go]$$Wcm1 Diagram 62-2
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . X . . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O 6 . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O 4 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X O 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . X 2 3 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O O . . 1 , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . B . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

afterall, because easy variations fail, the situation will probably evolve to a large scale fight, but i believe black has an advantage because his groups on the sides are relatively safe while both white groups float in the open space
Spilling gasoline feels good.

I might be wrong, but probably not.
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Laman,
How about:
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[go]$$B
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . 1 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X 2 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 . 6 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 4 O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 112. joppon v Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . 3 . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My cutting stone cannot be (immediately) captured, as far as I can see.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . 4 . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Reduction up top is most important to me right now. My other group is harder to attack.

There are a lot of variations coming up. Let's see what my opponent does here.
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Hmm, letting B get this nobi...
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[go]$$B
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X 1 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . . , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X 5 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . 6 , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hmmm ... I wonder how I missed reading that nobi?

Continuing to reduce the top.

Interesting note about my opponent's last move. Not only is it a good move, but because I missed reading it, it's also a blow to my confidence. This is the point where I might go on tilt if I'm not careful. :D

As it is, I'm going to try and ride the rags remaining of my original plan. :mrgreen:
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B may not have to reply to :w46: right away; all this because of the :wc: kosumi.
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[go]$$B
$$ ----------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . W . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 1 O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]
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Re: 112. joppon v Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Nice move! Makes center stronger and I feel Black has to answer, living would be hard. My only problem with the position is that White can get squeezed in the center..

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 2 1 4 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X 3 O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Something like this and then White will have to struggle with his group. However this sequence isn't playable until the top is settled.
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X 7 . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X 8 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . . O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Reduce the top, make room for one of my weak White groups, and force black to crawl on the 2nd line for territory, if he continues. Note that the K16 cut is a ladder in my favor, so I don't expect my opponent to cut.
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Re: 112. joppon v Marcus

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$$ | . . O O X . . X X O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . 9 O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . . . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
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Time to remove eyes. Or at least one possible eye.
This seems a likely sequence.
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[go]$$Bcm01 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . 7 9 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X O 8 . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . 1 O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . 3 2 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O 4 6 O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 112. joppon v Marcus

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[go]$$Bcm41 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . 0 . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought maybe I could get away with playing K16 instead, but then Black gets the vital point at L15. The result is terrible:

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[go]$$Bcm49 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . 1 O 2 . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . 3 4 . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . 5 O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


And :white: is dead.
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[go]$$Bcm51 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . . O . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O . . O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O . 1 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . X . O . . . , . . . . . , O . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This seems better and more likely for white than the sequence in my last post. Hence my change of mind.
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[go]$$Bcm01 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O , . 8 . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . 1 O . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O 3 5 O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O 4 2 . 0 . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . 7 . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Or...
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm01 Prisoner Count: :b1: :white:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . X X O . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X . . X O , . . . O . X O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O . 1 O . . . . X X . . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . O 3 5 O . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X O 4 2 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X X O O X X . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . O . 7 . , . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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