116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O 4 . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . 3 . |
$$ | . . , X O . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . 2 . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O , . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , X O . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 3 2 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
It seems like there's a few ways this could go:
1) White kills black's invasion outright, and black resigns
2) Black lives inside, and white's group dies
3) Black lives inside, but white lives also; I think black will win in this case, but it depends on white's damage
4) Black dies inside, but gains enough forcing moves around the edge to win anyway, for example something like:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X 7 . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O , . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , X O 4 1 6 . |
$$ | . . . . 5 3 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
My opponent will not let me off that easy, of course. It's very possible I just die inside, but I'd rather go down in a blaze of glory than lose by something like this:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X 1 9 |
$$ | . O X . X X O O 5 |
$$ | . X , . X O , 6 7 |
$$ | . . X . . O . 0 8 |
$$ | . . , X O . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 2 4 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . 4 3 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X X X |
$$ | 2 O X . X X O O X |
$$ | 1 X , . X O , O X |
$$ | . . X B 0 O . O O |
$$ | . . , X O . . . . |
$$ | . 9 X O O . . . . |
$$ | . 7 6 8 . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
White wins by 2.5.
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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still there?
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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emeraldemon wrote:still there?
Yep. I want to take a bit to get a good look at the position.
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O , . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , X O . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . W . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Sorry, didn't mean to rush you. I guess I'm excited to see what happens next :)
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O , . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . , X O B X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O 6 . . |
$$ | . . X . 2 O 5 7 . |
$$ | . . , X O 1 X . . |
$$ | . . . . 4 O 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]

capturing race?
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O , . . |
$$ | . . X . W O . . . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
I'm a couple of moves away from resigning :(
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O , . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . O B . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
I think it's going to go basically like this:
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X 9 8 X O 4 . . |
$$ | . . X 6 O O 3 5 . |
$$ | . . 7 X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . 2 . O B . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
I'm trying to read out how to win it, but it's tricky...
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O , . . |
$$ | . . X . O O . . . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . W O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O 2 . . |
$$ | . . X . O O 1 . . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X . 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
threatening to live
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . 7 . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X 6 . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O 2 . . |
$$ | . . X . O O 1 . . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . 5 O O X . 3 |
$$ | . . . . . . . 4 . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
something like this?
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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I believe Emeraldemon's :b1: should be at the shapey H4 point redundant mentioned before. I have trouble finding a good way for white after that. His given prediction diagram, white seems to kill quickly and win.
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O 1 2 . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O 3 4 . |
$$ | . . X . O O 1 2 . |
$$ | . . , X O X X 5 7 |
$$ | . . . . O O X . 6 |
$$ | . . . . . . 8 9 . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X . . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O . 4 . |
$$ | . . X . O O 1 2 . |
$$ | . . , X O X X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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ok, gotta think a bit :)
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X B . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O . . . |
$$ | . . X . O O X O . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
Just trying to keep up pressure...
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1
$$ +-------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O O X . . . . . |
$$ | O . O X , . X X . |
$$ | . O X . X X O O . |
$$ | . X , . X O . W . |
$$ | . . X . O O X O . |
$$ | . . , X O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ +-------------------+[/go]
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Re: 116. Redundant [~1d] v. Emeraldemon [2k] 9x9

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I'll go ahead and resign. Thanks for the game!
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