[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . . . . O . X . . | $$ | . X O O . X . . O , . . . X . 1 . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
This is bad! I was totally unprepared for this move and about 90% of my responses lead to total disaster. I need to keep 2 eyes in the corner and connect my O16 and other floating stones without letting white get too much territory. I wonder when this game is going to cool down. I need to count and evaluate my position, without white constantly pulling the rug out under my feet
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
Ok, I have sente and need to decide what I want to do. First: I'll figure out the status of the black group on the left. After that, I'll count!
$$Wc I guess white kills when I play like this. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 3 O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | 1 X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | 2 X 4 5 . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . 6 . 9 . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | 7 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | 8 X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
[go]$$Wc I guess white kills when I play like this. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 3 O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | 1 X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | 2 X 4 5 . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . 6 . 9 . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | 7 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | 8 X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |[/go]
$$Bc Trying anything at also fails. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | C X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 1 O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | C X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | 3 X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
[go]$$Bc Trying anything at also fails. $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | C X 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | 1 O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | C X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | 3 X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |[/go]
$$Bc If this was sente I think it might work, but it isn't so it doesn't $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | 1 X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |
[go]$$Bc If this was sente I think it might work, but it isn't so it doesn't $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | 1 X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X . . . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . |[/go]
Ok, so I srewed up the invasion and lost a huge cunck of my side. This looks bad.
$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | C C C C C C C C C C C C C C . . . . . | $$ | C B C C C C C C C C C C C C . . . . . | $$ | C O O C O C C C C O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | C B O O C B C C O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | C B C C C C C C O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | C C C C C C C O X X . . . . . O . C C | $$ | C C B C C C . . . . . . . . . C B C C | $$ | C B B C C C . O . . . . . . . C C C C | $$ | C O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O C C | $$ | C C C , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | C C C . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | C C C O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | C C O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . B O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O C . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O , X O O C . X . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . X . . X X O C O . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . X O C . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . C C . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | C C C C C C C C C C C C C C . . . . . | $$ | C B C C C C C C C C C C C C . . . . . | $$ | C O O C O C C C C O . O O O O . X . . | $$ | C B O O C B C C O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | C B C C C C C C O X . . . . . . O . . | $$ | C C C C C C C O X X . . . . . O . C C | $$ | C C B C C C . . . . . . . . . C B C C | $$ | C B B C C C . O . . . . . . . C C C C | $$ | C O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O C C | $$ | C C C , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | C C C . . X . O X . X . . . . . . . . | $$ | C C C O . X O O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | C C O . . X . . . O . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . B O . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O X X O C . . . . . X . . O . . | $$ | . . O , X O O C . X . . . . X , . . . | $$ | . X . . X X O C O . . . O . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . X O C . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . . C C . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
White Territory: The big area in the upper left quadrant: 85 points White group on the right: 15 points White group on the bottom: 5 point
$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C C | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C C | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X C C | $$ | . X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . O X C C . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X C C . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . C C . . . | $$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . C C . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . C C X C C | $$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . C C C C C | $$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X C C W C C | $$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X C C C C | $$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X C C C | $$ | C C X C C C X O . . . . . . C C C C C | $$ | C C C C C X . . . . . . . . C C C C C | $$ ---------------------------------------
[go]$$Bcm81 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C C | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C C | $$ | . O O . O . . . . O . O O O O . X C C | $$ | . X O O . X . . O , . X X X . X . . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . O X C C . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . O X X C C . . . O . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . X X . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O O . O . . O . . . . . O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . X X O X . . . X X X . . . | $$ | . . . . . X . O X . X . . . C C . . . | $$ | . . . O . X O O . . . . . . C C . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . . O . . . . C C X C C | $$ | . . X O . X O . . . . . . . C C C C C | $$ | . . . O X X O . . . . . . X C C W C C | $$ | . . O , X O O . . X . . . . X C C C C | $$ | . X . . X X O . O . . . O . . X C C C | $$ | C C X C C C X O . . . . . . C C C C C | $$ | C C C C C X . . . . . . . . C C C C C | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
Black Territory: Black group in the bottom left corner: 10 points Black group in the bottom right corner: 40 points Other black point in the top right: 10 points Komi: 35 points
White is leading with 10 points, even if you include the humongous komi. We are just about to enter endgame. Against an opponent of his caliber I like to go into endgame with a 15 point lead, not a 10 point deficit. I'll look at some more variations to revive the top left and if I can't find any I'll resign.
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
Having though about it some more, I don't think there is a way to come back, even against an equal opponent. So I resign. Thanks for the game emerus, it was fun
The worst mistake in the last few moves if not the game was probably C13: an empty triangle that is either killing myself or dying in gote But I guess the bigger problem was that I played that invasion in the first place without having any clear idea how to live.
While I was teaching the game to a friend of mine, my mother from the other room:
"Cutting? Killing? Poking out eyes? What the hell are you playing?"
Thank you for the game. I've made and commented an SGF.
(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[-34.50] PW[White]PB[Black] ;B[qc] ;W[cp] ;B[pq] ;W[dd] ;B[ep] ;W[qo] (;B[op] ;W[gq] (;B[fo] ;W[go] (;B[cn] ;W[do] (;B[fn] ;W[dn] (;B[jp] ;W[fp] ;B[fq] ;W[gp] ;B[eo] ;W[gn] ;B[fm] ;W[dl] (;B[qm]C[Your comment here was that pros seem to kikashi in weird times - however, kikashi are forcing moves. I'd consider r7 to simply be a BIG point.] ;W[hl] ;B[fk] ;W[di] (;B[fd] ;W[fi] ;B[gj] ;W[ec] ;B[ik]C[Great move, now you finally take control of the center.] ;W[gl] ;B[fl] ;W[hk] ;B[hj] ;W[ij] (;B[jj] ;W[ii] (;B[eq] ;W[jm] ;B[kk] ;W[hh] ;B[gr] ;W[hr] ;B[fs] ;W[iq] ;B[cr]C[White can't kill, as you probably read out.... but if I tenuki -] (;W[cm]C[So I fix in sente.] ;B[bq] ;W[mq] ;B[no] ;W[jc] ;B[nd]C[A fantastic move, imo.] ;W[qi] (;B[pj] ;W[pi] ;B[oj] ;W[oi] ;B[nj] ;W[qe]C[That was a bit aji keshi.... maybe defend in sente?] (;B[qg] ;W[pf] ;B[je]C[Another really good move.] ;W[ie] ;B[if] ;W[id] (;B[jf] ;W[hf] ;B[be]C[It's unlikely for black to find life in this area.] ;W[cd] ;B[bd] ;W[bc] ;B[bb] ;W[cc] ;B[ch] ;W[ci] ;B[bh] ;W[bi] ;B[cg]C[Losing point.] ;W[oc] ;B[pd] ;W[nc] ;B[md] ;W[mc] ;B[ld] ;W[lc]) (;B[hf]C[I think this aggressive push-in is playable, the game would be close still.])) (;B[qd] ;W[pe] ;B[je])) (;B[qg]C[Larger side, I think this is a necessary direction.] ;W[oi] (;B[qk] ;W[og]) (;B[og] ;W[ql]))) (;W[kd] ;B[cm] ;W[dm] ;B[ck] ;W[dk] ;B[cj] ;W[dj]C[Black has too many forcing moves here.])) (;B[gh]C[Run before living. Now keep j11 split off to attack it!])) (;B[jk] ;W[ii] ;B[gh]C[This would be difficult for W. Blacks last few moves are working wonderfully.])) (;B[gj]C[Urgent first. Even though black is not in a ton of danger, strengthening the group is too big.])) (;B[gm]C[This is urgent.])) (;B[gp] ;W[hp] ;B[fp]C[This is a vital shape point for both sides...] ;W[iq] ;B[dm]C[Now, maybe you can connect up for fight...] (;W[em]C[Separating is hard for white.] ;B[dl] ;W[en] ;B[hm]) (;W[cm] ;B[cl] ;W[bm] ;B[em]))) (;B[gn] ;W[gp] ;B[dq]C[Perhaps this can be OK.])) (;B[gn]LB[ho:A][gp:B]C[Only move. Turning in the center is gigantic and I had a feeling that you don't appreciate the size of this kind of move.])) (;B[cq]LB[dq:A]C[This is a possible move because the d3 cut involves a ladder.] (;W[dq] ;B[dp] ;W[eq] ;B[fq] ;W[fp] ;B[fr] ;W[cr] ;B[bq] ;W[er] ;B[gr] (;W[co] ;B[dn] ;W[br] ;B[hq] ;W[gp] ;B[hp] ;W[gn]) (;W[gp] ;B[es] ;W[dr] ;B[br] ;W[do]C[This is the ladder.])) (;W[bq] ;B[dq] ;W[cm] ;B[fo]C[After this, white no longer can play g5 favorably.... so -] ;W[jq] (;B[bo] ;W[bp] ;B[co] ;W[do] ;B[dp] ;W[ao] ;B[dn] ;W[bn] ;B[eo] ;W[cj] ;B[lq]) (;B[br] ;W[bp] ;B[fq] ;W[gp] ;B[lq]C[Some possibilities to attack white on both sides.])))) (;B[pm]C[Pincer is a more typical idea. Pincering severe is smart because the bottom of the board is where the emphasis lies.] ;W[lq] ;B[po] ;W[iq] ;B[qn] ;W[dn]C[An exchange may result.]))
Hopefully this is at least sente.
also fails.
But I guess the bigger problem was that I played that invasion in the first place without having any clear idea how to live.