A 5D for breakfast

[Joaz Banbeck]

I watched a guy named Sunnylucky with a provisional 8D rating on KGS last night. Judging from his name and strength, I suspect that he is a Chinese pro or insei, and was playing his first game of the day. His opponent is a legitimate 5 dan, but who seemed to never really have a chance. I'm posting it because he seems to almost effortlessly keep attacking; and he seldom seems to make an overtly territorial move, but his territory just accumulates.

As of this morning Sunnylucky has played enough games to have a firm rating. It is 9D now.

[sgf-full](;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[3]KM[0.50]TM[300]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[SunnyLucky]PB[mustsee]WR[8d]BR[5d]DT[2011-06-09]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp][pp]RE[W+8.50]
;W[dc]WL[293.671]C[mustsee [5d\]: hi
]
;B[df]BL[297.07]C[SunnyLucky [8d?\]: hi
]
;W[ch]WL[279.966]
;B[dd]BL[291.581]
;W[ed]WL[276.876]
;B[cc]BL[289.904]
;W[cb]WL[272.4]
;B[cd]BL[286.573]
;W[eb]WL[270.435]
;B[ee]BL[285.136]
;W[fd]WL[269.35]
;B[bf]BL[283.187]
;W[ck]WL[266.602]
;B[cm]BL[276.368]
;W[jq]WL[260.414]
;B[dq]BL[266.712]
;W[nq]WL[257.457]
;B[qn]BL[264.569]
;W[qf]WL[256.016]
;B[qh]BL[261.569]
;W[ph]WL[246.939]
;B[pi]BL[257.991]
;W[pg]WL[235.702]
;B[qj]BL[238.379]
;W[nd]WL[233.161]
;B[re]BL[219.478]
;W[pc]WL[218.696]
;B[qc]BL[214.297]
;W[oc]WL[217.164]
;B[qb]BL[199.397]
;W[gf]WL[213.942]
;B[ne]BL[155.486]
;W[me]WL[204.667]
;B[oe]BL[151.687]
;W[mf]WL[201.717]
;B[md]BL[136.599]
;W[mc]WL[199.767]
;B[jf]BL[116.163]
;W[ld]WL[196.581]
;B[jh]BL[110.725]
;W[jj]WL[191.378]
;B[jd]BL[105.815]
;W[ig]WL[179.854]
;B[jg]BL[102.539]
;W[li]WL[177.275]
;B[hd]BL[94.647]
;W[fe]WL[171.542]
;B[lg]BL[84.05]
;W[ef]WL[162.033]
;B[bh]BL[66.57]
;W[cg]WL[156.426]
;B[bg]BL[65.081]
;W[bi]WL[153.859]
;B[cf]BL[57.655]
;W[oi]WL[135.877]
;B[mg]BL[28.512]
;W[nf]WL[126.636]
;B[rf]BL[16.678]
;W[pj]WL[118.107]
;B[qi]BL[14.6]
;W[pk]WL[117.317]
;B[mi]BL[6.26]
;W[mj]WL[114.162]
;B[ni]BL[4.145]
;W[nj]WL[112.806]
;B[oh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[oj]WL[111.079]
;B[ng]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[og]WL[100.427]
;B[nh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[pe]WL[95.19]
;B[qe]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[lh]WL[90.086]
;B[pf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[of]WL[88.045]
;B[kc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ic]WL[77.908]
;B[id]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[hb]WL[68.588]
;B[lf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ke]WL[62.437]
;B[le]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[kd]WL[46.143]
;B[qg]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[md]WL[43.982]
;B[hf]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[jc]WL[39.145]
;B[hi]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[hg]WL[22.777]
;B[ji]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ij]WL[20.764]
;B[hh]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[de]WL[18.74]
;B[eg]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fh]WL[7.724]
;B[kj]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[kk]WL[3.849]
;B[hj]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bc]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[bd]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[di]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ci]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[dg]BL[30]OB[3]
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;B[hk]BL[30]OB[3]
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;W[gl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[el]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[dm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[en]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gn]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[hn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ki]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[lj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[jl]WL[30]OW[5]C[deop [1d\]: j8
]
;B[il]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[im]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: j7
deop [1d\]:
deop [1d\]: now black is black
]
;B[hl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ik]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: megako
]
;W[jn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fn]WL[30]OW[5]C[akropiv [5k\]: but whit have mege thread
]
;B[em]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[km]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[co]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[bp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[cn]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[dn]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[cp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[bq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[bn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[cq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ao]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[or]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oq]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: clean win for w
Goreon [2d\]: gg
]
;W[nr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[np]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[mo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[no]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[op]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nn]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Imvatim [2k\]: q5 better than p2?
]
;B[fo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[go]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[lo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ql]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[os]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fc]BL[30]OB[2]C[pjpj: o2, e2
]
;W[ec]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pa]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ob]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oa]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ma]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qa]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ro]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kb]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: man that's big
]
;W[ns]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ps]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[po]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[on]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[mm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nl]WL[30]OW[5]C[pjpj: a3, s9
]
;B[kp]BL[30]OB[2]C[pjpj: this seems bigger
]
;W[ko]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ib]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fa]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ga]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ha]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ja]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[od]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lc]WL[30]OW[5]C[pjpj: j2?
]
;B[er]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fr]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: j2 still eyeless
]
;B[gp]BL[30]OB[2]C[Valentine [-\]: n1..
black99 [9k\]: this is getting boring
]
;W[hp]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: boring???
ManInMe [5k\]: then leave
stoneder [3k\]: j14?
Goreon [2d\]: gg imho
black99 [9k\]: it seems b'spushing w
]
;B[ka]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[la]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: it's very close
Goreon [2d\]: yes close
]
;B[hr]BL[30]OB[2]C[Goreon [2d\]: j2ß
]
;W[hq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: oh
]
;B[jr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ir]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[is]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[iq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ls]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ms]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[2]C[Valentine [-\]: if b n1 earlier
]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[5]C[Imvatim [2k\]: lol n1 was the move
Goreon [2d\]: m8 or s9 bigger?
pjpj: yup
]
;B[ea]BL[30]OB[2]C[Sheeple [1k\]: ? this is super success
Goreon [2d\]: smLL
]
;W[da]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ls]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[dh]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[eh]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[5]C[Zairex [1d\]: hanami
]
;B[bm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ls]BL[30]OB[1]C[Goreon [2d\]: i think w messed up a winning game
]
;W[so]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: looks like it
black99 [9k\]: y, thats what imean boring\\
]
;B[lq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[5]C[black99 [9k\]: w messed up
]
;B[je]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hs]WL[30]OW[5]C[Zairex [1d\]: nice
Sheeple [1k\]: don't be a chicken b
Imvatim [2k\]: eeeek
]
;B[sp]BL[30]OB[1]C[Sheeple [1k\]: hehe
Sheeple [1k\]: lucky
Zairex [1d\]: 8D
]
;W[ia]WL[30]OW[5]C[Goreon [2d\]: wooo
Imvatim [2k\]: awww
pjpj: geee
]
;B[ll]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ln]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: got rid of the ko for nothing at all. so wow
]
;B[mn]BL[30]OB[1]C[Troglodyte [2k\]: S4 still a prob?
]
;W[ml]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[lm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kf]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kg]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ln]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[no]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[sn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sq]WL[30]OW[5]C[Sheeple [1k\]: the answer is yes
DaKing123 [6k\]: another lifechanging ko
]
;B[rr]BL[30]OB[1]C[Sheeple [1k\]: w back in the saddle
Sheeple [1k\]: or as black99 would say, boring
]
;W[so]WL[30]OW[5]C[ManInMe [5k\]: XD
Troglodyte [2k\]: Black99 must have interesting non-go life
]
;B[sr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[he]WL[30]OW[5]C[Imvatim [2k\]: couldn't blak just nobi when ws4?
]
;B[if]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sm]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rj]BL[30]OB[1]
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;W[aq]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[cj]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[br]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[qp]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[si]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]C[pjpj: b2
Sheeple [1k\]: w+5 or so
pjpj: b1
]
;W[ge]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ee]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[sp]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[jk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ee]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ri]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[rh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ee]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ce]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[be]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[km]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[om]BL[30]OB[1]
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;B[jm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ep]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[eo]BL[30]OB[1]
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;B[jm]BL[30]OB[1]
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;W[ab]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[ak]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[gs]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[es]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bk]WL[30]OW[5]
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;W[qk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[]WL[30]OW[5]TW[aa][ba][ca][ea][ga][ja][ka][db][kb][kc][mk][nk][ok][al][ol][pl][rl][sl][bm][cm][om][an][cn][in][bo][ho][io][jo][ip][kp][kq][lq][ar][gr][hr][jr][kr][mr][bs][is][js][ls]TB[pa][ra][sa][ob][rb][sb][oc][pc][rc][sc][qd][rd][sd][ae][pe][se][af][qf][sf][ag][hg][ig][rg][sg][fh][gh][ih][sh][fi][gi][ri][fj][gj][fk][ln][rp][qq][sq][qr][qs][rs][ss]C[mustsee [5d\]: thnx
SunnyLucky [8d?\]: thx
])[/sgf-full]

[Toge]

Interesting game. I sometimes have grim thoughts that some of the high dans on KGS who only play a couple of games and leave it there are really amateurs with inflated ranks or lucky winning sprees. Let's hope SunnyLucky will stick around.

[Magicwand]

black is not legit 5d.
i think he plays like 3d.
too many kyuish mistakes by black...white didnt have to do anything to win.

edit:
pro or insei can give that persone 5 stone and probably win

[illluck]

@magicwand: some of black's moves felt off to me too, but then I noticed the time limit :p

[Magicwand]

@magicwand: some of black's moves felt off to me too, but then I noticed the time limit :p

yea..i didnt see that.. good catch.
but..with that time limit i still would have played better game than that.

[RobertJasiek]

Regardless of time limit, Black's fuseki was terrible.

[perceval]

omg magicwand and RJasiek just agreed on something.
World peace is at hand

[SoDesuNe]

And kghin demoted him to 8D again ^^ Killed half the board.

[shapenaji]

RJasiek

well, N16 was bad, but the rest of the fuseki seemed fine.

[RobertJasiek]

Bad B moves:

B14 D3 R12 S15? P15 N16 K16 S14

Bad B strategy:

not using handicap well

allowing big W top moyo

[Joaz Banbeck]

Another provisional 8D popped up yesterday evening, named Milkpiao. He is now unbeaten in 9 games ( including giving JoeyHung 2 stones ) and plays from a Shanghai-based IP.
He is not SunnyLucky, who plays from a Taiwan IP, and who was playing simultaneously.

[Hsiang]

Joaz -- Is it okay to out the private info of players like you do? Many, like myself, prefer to play privately for our own reasons, and I for one sure don't want you to come out and say this account's IP is from Rochester, New York. Please, at least check with us before you publicize any info about our IP. -- Come to think of it, I am not even sure it is appropriate for you to CHECK the IP or any other derivatives of any KGS accounts without cause.

[Li Kao]

Is Joaz a kgs admin? Or did some admin post that info in kibitz?

But in general information about IPs shouldn't be published.

[Redundant]

All the information joaz gave was publicly available on the profiles. Sunnylucky has his language set to Taiwan, and Milkpiao has an email address with a Shanghai based website on his.

[hyperpape]

All the information joaz gave was publicly available on the profiles. Sunnylucky has his language set to Taiwan, and Milkpiao has an email address with a Shanghai based website on his.

It's the mention of IPs that's surprising, but Joaz can tell us what he did/meant.