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Offline Tryphon
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #181 Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:23 am 
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No, I'll read the thread. I can read comments by White and only them, can't I ?
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Offline Mnemonic
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #182 Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 10:38 am 
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Yes, except those by markus marked 'observers' :D

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Offline robinz
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #183 Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:30 am 
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Bump. Are we ready to restart this game yet? I do believe it's still black's move...
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Offline Jordus
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #184 Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:32 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i like the pincer... so why not another standard reply to choose from?

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Offline Loons
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #185 Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:12 am 
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Can you chide your subordinates for suggesting/endorsing a 4-4 pincer without even casually mentioning the 3-3 invasion continuation?

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Offline Redundant
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #186 Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:43 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm11 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Team:
I would have liked to get more elaboration about the follow up for this ... but the move isn't bad at all.


Loons:
I would like to see more of their reading, but I'll be generous and assume that they're doing a bunch of reading behind my back.
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Offline Mnemonic
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #187 Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:25 am 
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[go]$$Bcm17 or :w22: at (a). Seems ok because black would rather have :b21: at (b)
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . a 6 . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . b . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . 3 . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm17 Don't really like this because black has sente
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 3 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . 8 6 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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[go]$$Bcm17 Try something crazy with the goal of attacking :b17:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline lesenv
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #188 Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:06 pm 
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some bumping...
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Offline robinz
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #189 Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:27 pm 
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Of Mnemonic's choices, I'm sure I prefer the simple jump. I suck at joseki, not having bothered to learn any but a very few which keep coming up in my games (and the 2-space low pincer isn't one of them), so I'm not sure how we're supposed to be following it up, but I doubt Mnemonic's cap is the only option (although it doesn't look a bad one).

But another option is surely to just invade the corner. Yes, I know, it gives black a lot of thickness, which works fairly well with tengen - but it does give us a fair amount of territory compared with the 3-3 invasion without first approaching, nor does it lead to us getting sealed in as badly. I feel it's an option, especially given our captain's expressed preference for us taking some cash. (Although he has also indicated, very reasonably imo, that he doesn't want us getting sealed in, so perhaps this is out for that reason. Although, as I said, I think it's hard to totally seal us in in this variation - plus it's also a respectable joseki.)

I don't know what to suggest, but am trying to say a bit more now I've finally got some time to have some thoughts.
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Offline lesenv
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Post #190 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:58 am 
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i don't even remember if both teams are complete now... can we please continue this game?
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Offline SinK
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Post #191 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:22 am 
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I think we're complete. We're just waiting on white now.

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Offline robinz
 Post subject: Re: Teamovich 2
Post #192 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:51 am 
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Yep, we are - sorry black team. In my last post I entered into some discussion with Mnemonic about our next move (which he had already initiated), but I haven't had any response yet. I also have very little time these days, but this weekend I'll try to at least post a suggestion, even if I haven't had any more input from my teammate(s) by then.
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Offline SinK
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Post #193 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:42 am 
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Bump-bump-bump-bumpetty-bump.

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Offline robinz
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Post #194 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:41 am 
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Bump indeed - even though it's our move ;-)

I'd be happy to continue, but don't feel very motivated to if there's no comment from my team-mate (should that be plural? I got kind of lost where we got with finding a replacement for Rafa) or my captain...
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Offline Marcus
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Post #195 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:44 am 
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I'm here ... but robinz seems to be the last white soldier standing.
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Offline SinK
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Post #196 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:29 am 
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I guess its all of us versus robinz then?

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Offline robinz
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Post #197 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:37 am 
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:shock: *runs and hides*
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Offline perceval
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Post #198 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:17 am 
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tryphon is around maybe he has forgotten that he has been accepted in W team ?
as a spectator i would love to see the thread go on

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