SGF files with commentation for beginners?

hyperpape · Post by **hyperpape** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:37 am

Otake was known for consistently making good shape. It will still come down to the individual games.

emeraldemon · Post by **emeraldemon** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:29 am

If you're willing to spend some money, there are many good books with commentaries of professional games:

http://senseis.xmp.net/?GoBooks#toc28

oren · Post by **oren** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:31 am

From that list...

http://senseis.xmp.net/?TheGoConsultants

This has the best commented single game I've ever read. I still need to get Meijin's Retirement Game though.

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:39 am

The 1971 Honinbo Tournament is a very good book I read and could understand at around 10-8k. You might want to look into it as well, if you're willing to spend money.

Inkwolf · Post by **Inkwolf** » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:57 am

I've spent more than I can afford on Go stuff lately already, but I will bear those in mind for when my bills are caught up again, and look at those Malkovich games meanwhile. Thanks!

Hushfield · Post by **Hushfield** » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:42 am

hyperpape wrote:Otake was known for consistently making good shape. It will still come down to the individual games.

I second that. My teacher made me play through a dozen of Otake games each day, without any reading, just quickly guessing where the next move might be, and checking whether the result matched my predictions. This is an exercise in the direction of play, and very important for Otake, good shape.

cyclops · Post by **cyclops** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:09 am

I sgf'ed some 18 games from "Invincible - The Games of Shusaku", including the comments, mostly as variants into the sgf. I include one example. If you are interested I can provide you with more on the condition you buy the book and promise to sgf some games yourself and exchange them with me.
In case someone is worried about copyrights: I proposed this deal to the copyrightholders and they did not object to it.

Inkwolf · Post by **Inkwolf** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:28 am

cyclops wrote:I sgf'ed some 18 games from "Invincible - The Games of Shusaku", including the comments, mostly as variants into the sgf. I include one example. If you are interested I can provide you with more on the condition you buy the book and promise to sgf some games yourself and exchange them with me.
In case someone is worried about copyrights: I proposed this deal to the copyrightholders and they did not object to it.

Maybe it's my noobness, but that's got to be the oddest game file I've looked at yet. :lol:

Chinese scoring, I take it? Thanks for the offer, but the book is selling for $60 in used and new on Amazon, so it's probably not going to happen.

emeraldemon · Post by **emeraldemon** » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:22 am

Inkwolf wrote:
cyclops wrote:I sgf'ed some 18 games from "Invincible - The Games of Shusaku", including the comments, mostly as variants into the sgf. I include one example. If you are interested I can provide you with more on the condition you buy the book and promise to sgf some games yourself and exchange them with me.
In case someone is worried about copyrights: I proposed this deal to the copyrightholders and they did not object to it.

Maybe it's my noobness, but that's got to be the oddest game file I've looked at yet. Chinese scoring, I take it? Thanks for the offer, but the book is selling for $60 in used and new on Amazon, so it's probably not going to happen.

I got lucky, I got mine at a used bookstore for about $15. When ever I go to a used bookstore I check for go books (looking near the chess books). Usually there's nothing there, but I got invincible and 1001 life and death that way :tmbup:

BTW it only costs $50 at Kiseido http://www.kiseido.com/go_books.htm#K01 .

cyclops · Post by **cyclops** » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:59 am

Inkwolf wrote:Maybe it's my noobness, but that's got to be the oddest game file I've looked at yet. Chinese scoring, I take it? Thanks for the offer, but the book is selling for $60 in used and new on Amazon, so it's probably not going to happen.

If it wasn't for the editors I would publish all my sgf's. If you can afford it, the book is worth the money. I forgot to include the information section in this sgf. But it is not Chinese scoring of course. Well, let me present you some more oddity. Have fun

cyclops · Post by **cyclops** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 3:28 pm

If you downloaded any of my two previous sgf files but didn't like them please skip this one.

Inkwolf · Post by **Inkwolf** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:20 pm

Actually, I've enjoyed looking at them all. Thank you! This is a strange one, too. Was it won by a resignation that doesn't show up on the file? My program's final scoring says Black won by 6 points, but there's a white shape on the right side that's ruled as dame. It looks easy enough to make another eye within that shape, which would make it worth 7 points, including the black prisoner. (It really ought to be White's already, worth 8+1 points.)

I've also downloaded some Otake games to look at.

Also have a couple of books to read, so right now I'm slightly overloaded with study materials.

cyclops · Post by **cyclops** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:16 pm

W won by 3 pts. In drago there is a i button for information. So you can find the result yourself, among other details.
I will stop overloading you, sorry.

Inkwolf · Post by **Inkwolf** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:46 pm

cyclops wrote:W won by 3 pts. In drago there is a i button for information. So you can find the result yourself, among other details.
I will stop overloading you, sorry.

No, don't apologize!!! You are helping make me a better player. ^^

I'm on a Mac, so Drago won't work for me. Goban is great to play against, but doesn't show the markup/details when reviewing edited SGF files. (Just comments) I may download Jaqueline and see if that is any better for review.

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