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Offline zinger
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #161 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:18 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O 1 O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


A mistake by Magicwand?

I am pretty sure his group was already alive. True, his move threatens to disrupt my connectivity through all the marked stones:

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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O B . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , B . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O B B . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . B . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . B . . W O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . B . B O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . B O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . . O . . O O . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

... but it me provokes to defend by capturing four stones, worth perhaps 12 points. White may get a couple points back from his move, but overall I think white has just given me about 10 points for free. If his endgame continues like that I will win.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #162 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:01 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . . W O . . O O . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

wow..he took that little 4 stone?
i was afraid he might play marked white stone.
i think the cat is almost in the bag..
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . 6 O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . 7 X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 X O . O X 8 , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X 2 X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | 5 1 W O . . O O . . 9 . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline zinger
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Post #163 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:20 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . 1 O O . . O O . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


That's a big move and sente too. Maybe it will be a tough endgame after all. I feel I must push for the max by answering at 1.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 33. Magicwand v. zinger
Post #164 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:31 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . . X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X W X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #165 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:40 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


obviously forced

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #166 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:44 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . . . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . W . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #167 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:05 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . . O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . 1 . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


hmm, it looks like white's capture there will be worth 9 points, in gote. I think that is not the biggest right now.

I think black 1 is worth about 8-10 points, in reverse sente, so effectively 16-20 points.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #168 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:12 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . W O . . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . . X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i was afraid he might tenuki but what he played is not right.

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Post #169 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:14 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O X O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O 2 . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O 1 . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . 3 X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Force before defending, 1 gives me a free point at F10.

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Post #170 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:18 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

bottom gote is bigger but top has some aji that worth more.
i think the cat is in the bag... i can not lose this game.

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Offline SpongeBob
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Post #171 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:24 am 
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Another quite interesting game. So without Kirby's betting system being in place, yet, how would you guys make your bets? I would place it on zinger, without much fear of loosing it.

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Post #172 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:31 am 
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


It looks like he made the biggest move. I'll grab a freebie before deciding what to do next.

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #173 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:37 am 
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[go]$$c A 7k's choice for next move
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . B . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #174 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:50 am 
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let me know if you dont agree
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . . . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O 3 . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . 4 1 2 . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
what he played is so wrong..now i have move that will separate black group and attack.

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Post #175 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:04 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . 1 . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Nuts, I overlooked white D13. Really careless, that wasn't hard to see. Now I have to think if he threatens my E16 stones. Yeah, white F15 would be a pain in the rear. I guess I have to play 1, which stinks because not only is it not the area I would have played, it's not even the local move I would have played. bah. Well at least it is worth a few points.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #176 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:15 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . W . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . X . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline quantumf
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Post #177 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:19 am 
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Chew Terr wrote:
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[go]$$c A 7k's choice for next move
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . B . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It's quite big, but it suffers from being gote, and also, white can reduce, in sente, the hoped-for area from three directions, the top (e18 or j18), the left (e14) and the right (j15).
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Post #178 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:19 am 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O 1 . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . X . O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Hey Magicwand, this game is fun! You may lead but only by a little, it's not over yet.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #179 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:24 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . O X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . X W O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

all i need is a few point lead to secure my win.

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Post #180 Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:10 am 
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[go]$$c
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 1 O X . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . O . O X . . X O O . O . O O . . . . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . , O X . X X X . . . |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . . . X . . . . X . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . X . . X O X X X . |
$$ | . O X O . . . X . . O O . X O O X O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X O O . . . O O O O X . |
$$ | . O O O . X O O X . . O . . . X O X . |
$$ | . . X O X . . . X , X . . O . , O . . |
$$ | . X X O X O O X . . . X X X O . . O . |
$$ | . X O X X X X O X X . . . . X X X X . |
$$ | . X O . . . . O O . . . O X X O O X . |
$$ | . . . X . O . . . . . O . O O X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . O X . . . X X O O O . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . O X . , X O X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X O X O . O . . . . X O . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . . O O . X . . . X X . O . . |
$$ | . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Not sure why he decided to give me that stone.


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all i need is a few point lead to secure my win.

That's true. Do you have it? ;-)

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