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 Post subject: Re: 115 - robinz v. 1986
Post #401 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:38 am 
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[go]$$Wcm220 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . . O X X X 1 . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O . . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


this seems like the biggest point on the board right now

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Post #402 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:01 am 
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[go]$$Bcm221 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . 1 O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O . . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


I wondered when he was going to take that sente. Oh well, I must submit.

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Post #403 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:59 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm222 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X . O . . 1 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O . . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


i can go ahead and close up this territory in sente

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Post #404 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:05 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm223 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X 1 O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O . . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Forced, again. What, you expected an interesting comment over as obvious a move as this? ;-)

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Post #405 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:58 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm224 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O . . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . 1 X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


if black would have played here i would have had to defend so this removes a worry and gets easy points on the side

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Post #406 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:40 am 
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[go]$$Bcm225 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O . . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Just some more feeling around, and removing liberties which hopefully might have proved important, in sente. I'm beginning to wonder when the time will be right to play small sente moves like T16 - I guess it'll be when the followup is bigger than anything else remaining on the board, which we're probably pretty close to (and may even have passed). But this move is definitely sente as well, so I'll have it first :)

Did I ever mention that I don't like the endgame? (And I'm even a mathematician - or at least am by training, not that I am any more - and I thought we were supposed to like it :lol:)

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Post #407 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:51 am 
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[go]$$Wcm226 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . 1 X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O . . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


this moved is forced, i dont want him inching into my territory

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Post #408 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:08 am 
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[go]$$Bcm227 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O 1 . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Also sente, so why not? ;-) I guess it might be aji-keshi, but I really wouldn't have thought so - it's difficult to imagine I'll be able to do much else to exploit D13, and me getting this point is worth at least a couple of points more to me than him getting it.

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Post #409 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:26 am 
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[go]$$Wcm228 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X 1 . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


this is a nice and solid move & by my count im up by 10 points, the center is the hardest place to make territory, & i dont see anymore easy points on the board, so as long as i stay calm and focused & play smart, i can hold on to the lead. :rambo:

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Post #410 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:37 am 
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White's last play feels overly passive to me. I'd play:
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[go]$$Wcm228 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X b O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . 1 a . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


As far as I can read, a does not work. b is sente, if I'm not mistaken, but not very big. Maybe..

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[go]$$Wcm228 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . . . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O 2 X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X 1 O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . p . q . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


I think p and q are miai to reduce.

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Post #411 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:52 am 
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[go]$$Bcm229 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . . 1 . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Latest plan: I'll play the 1-point sente moves here and at T16 (plus any more I discover that I can't see at the moment), before taking a big gote point somewhere else. H9 is such a point, but perhaps something in the M11/M12 region is better. Or then again, perhaps not - visually this region looks pretty big, but on reflection it's hard to see it not all ending up as dame, whatever happens in there.

I'm also pondering a peep at L13, although I'm not sure if it has any particularly good followup.

I doubt I can do enough to have a chance to win the game, but let's at least try to make it close - and then see if I can come out fighting for a win if my opponent slips up :rambo:

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Post #412 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:11 am 
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[go]$$Wcm230 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . 1 X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O . |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


blocking my territory again

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Post #413 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:30 am 
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[go]$$Bcm231 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O . |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O 1 |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Having sente is fun - I just wish I could keep it for longer :D

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Post #414 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:55 am 
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[go]$$Wcm232 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O 1 |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . . . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


blocking off territory again!

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Post #415 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:13 am 
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[go]$$Bcm233 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O O |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . 1 . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


OK, I'm pretty sure this is the biggest thing still on the board. I'll just solidify my own territory, and next move (unless I have to respond to a big threat) start looking for some antics to complicate things and claw my way back.

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Post #416 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:41 am 
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[go]$$Wcm234 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O O |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . 1 . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . X . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


here im ripping into the center
i was going to one space jump but i feel the diagonal is stronger and less likely to be cut

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Post #417 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:51 am 
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[go]$$Bcm235 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O O |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O . O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . 1 . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . O . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . X . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


OK, I'm going to give this a whirl - although I don't think it achieves enough. At the moment I'm planning to follow up with M12, to at least stay connected - but perhaps I can find a more exciting follow-up.

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Post #418 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:15 am 
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[go]$$Wcm236 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O O |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O 1 O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . X . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . . . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . O . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . X . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


great move lets see how he continues...

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Post #419 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:59 am 
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[go]$$Bcm237 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O O |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O O O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . X . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . 1 . . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . O . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . X . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


Nope, can't see anything exciting here, so I'm just playing the planned move to stay connected. Looks like this whole area of the board (or the vast majority of it) is indeed going to end as dame - which is a lot better than white getting a fair chunk of it as territory, which was definitely possible before.

I feel I definitely am clawing my way back here, but I also still feel I'm not going to move into the lead unless I can pull off something dramatic. I'm not sure if there's anything of this description available, but for now I'll just keep probing and poking and see what happens.

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Post #420 Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:16 am 
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[go]$$Wcm238 Prisoner Count :w35: :b13:
$$ +---------------------------------------+
$$ | . . . . O X . X . X X O . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . X O X . X O X X X O . . . |
$$ | . . O . O X . O X . X X O O O O O O O |
$$ | . . . O . X . X . X X O O X X X X O X |
$$ | . . . O X . X O . X O . . O . . X X X |
$$ | . . O . O X . X . O O O O . O X . . X |
$$ | . . O X O . . . . . X . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . O X O O O O . . . . X 1 . X . X . X |
$$ | . O X X . X X X . O . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . O X , X . . . . , O . X X X X X . X |
$$ | . . X X X . . X . . . . X . . . X . X |
$$ | . X X O . . . . O O . O O X X . . . . |
$$ | X X . X X X X X O X . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . X X O O X O . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | X X . X . . . O X X . . O . O X . X . |
$$ | X . X O O O . O O , . . . O O X O X X |
$$ | X X X O . O . . . . O . . O . O X X . |
$$ | X O O . . O . . . . . . . . . O X O X |
$$ | O . O O O . . . . . . . . . . O O O O |
$$ +---------------------------------------+[/go]


i gotta keep on pushing its point for point in the center, he is goig to play m11, im working on a reply

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