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Offline EdLee
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Post #61 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:42 pm 
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Graham, gaius:
Pro evaluation: :)
(1) :w27: is gote. (My reasoning was correct.)
topazg wrote:
I feel like this is a case of urgent before big.
(2) Yes, but here the lower right corner is more urgent than the upper left corner. B's upper left corner group is OK.
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[go]$$Wm27
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 1 X . . X . O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . B . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . a b O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X c . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
gaius wrote:
This is why the marked black stone was in the wrong direction.
(3) Correct. :bc: was not good. Better was :black:(c) directly.
(4) My :black:(a) keima is not good; it does not close W. :black:(b) attach is better -- it closes W. However...
(5) Better is still :black:(c) directly -- this is more urgent than the upper left corner.

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 Post subject: Re: 132 Kirby vs. tj86430 (4-stone hcp)
Post #62 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:47 pm 
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@Ed:

Very many thanks. Actually, "c" is one of those completely obvious moves ... after someone has pointed it out :P

That both stops White from settling and leaves the stones heavy - good spot that pro ;)
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Offline tj86430
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Post #63 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:50 pm 
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Hmm, I'm really looking forward to see what all the fuss is about...

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Graham,
topazg wrote:
good spot that pro ;)
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tj86430 wrote:
Hmm, I'm really looking forward to see what all the fuss is about...
"Nothing to see here. Move along..." (until after the game. :))
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Post #66 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:59 pm 
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Clearly, everyone here is discussing my hidden in-depth and thought provoking analysis.

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TJ, actually there's some good stuff here. Hopefully, soon the game will have progressed enough that we can unhide some of these posts. :)
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Post #68 Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:02 pm 
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I guess, since I'm bored, I'll provide some (shallow) analysis (which is lacking in depth).

I don't know how tj86430 plays, but I hope for the following:
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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X 1 O . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . 2 X . O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X 3 . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If that's the case, maybe I can keep the flow by threatening his group:
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[go]$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . B B O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O B . O B . O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . B B . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I have no real aspirations to kill his group, but I want to have fun with it. Push him around, get some stones placed where I want to in the process.

I want to do that for as long as I think he'll respond to me. I guess this is different than "as long as it's sente", because that's how I play handicap games as white.

It's probably a habit, but since I'm behind, if I can get moves in that may not be sente, but I feel they will respond, I sometimes play them. I guess that's probably bad, but... Otherwise I get discouraged being behind.

Anyway...

Once I do get the chance to take sente, I'm not quite sure where I want to play. I want to make a ruckus on the bottom, but I wonder if that's best. Maybe I should help my two stones on the bottom right.

That seems so lame, though... :-P

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Post #69 Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:32 am 
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[go]$$Wcm21 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X 0 O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . X . O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I don't want to give up the corner. He will probably play F18 next, after which I will have to decide what to do.

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Post #70 Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:58 am 
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . 1 X . O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X . . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Rollin' with the plan.

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Post #71 Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:11 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X 2 . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Ok, he chose to play this first. I can't think of any other response.

I'm not happy with this development, but I think I can come out ok. The biggest worry is that I will get a weak group I will have to look after, but his group on the top left will need some attention also.

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Post #72 Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:40 pm 
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I will be on the road most of tomorrow. After that I will spend a week in a summer cabin, where the only internet connection is via my mobile, so I may or may not be able to play. I will try though.

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Post #73 Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:13 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X . O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No problem.

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Post #74 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:31 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X 4 O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X . X . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . X . . . , . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I haven't really had time to read enough, but I can't think of anything better.

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tj86430 wrote:
I haven't really had time to read enough, but I can't think of anything better.
(For beginners.) Let's look at these 3 variations:
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[go]$$B Var. 1
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X O . O 2 . . .
$$ | . O X . O X 1 O . .
$$ | . O . X X . . . . ,
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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[go]$$B Var. 2 :b1: is gote; :w2: tenuki
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X O . O . . . .
$$ | . O X . O B . O . .
$$ | . O . X X 1 . . . ,
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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[go]$$B Var. 3 :b1: tenuki
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X O . O . . . .
$$ | . O X . O X . O . .
$$ | . O . X X 2 4 . . ,
$$ | . . . . . 3 . . . .
$$ | . . O . 5 . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]

Next: Var. 1.
Var. 1 should be immediate suspect because of the bad shape for B -- W has hane on both heads of the two B :bc: stones:
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[go]$$B Var. 1
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X O . @ @ . . .
$$ | . O X . @ B B @ . .
$$ | . O . X X . . . . ,
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Later, W may not want to be "nice" to B with W(a) -- rather, W may cut with :w1:
and suddenly B has two weak groups.
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[go]$$W
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . Y Y O . O O . . .
$$ | . O Y . O B B O . .
$$ | . O . Y Y 1 . a . ,
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
So, with Var. 1, B has created a heavy group for himself -- this is the real game move :b34:.

Next: Var. 2.
If the :bc: stone is important to B, B should simply connect with :b1: -- this is better than Var. 1.
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[go]$$B Var. 2 :w2: tenuki
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X O . O . . . .
$$ | . O X . O B . O . .
$$ | . O . X X 1 . . . ,
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
(For beginners.) Unfortunately, :b1: is gote. Verify for yourself B cannot cut with :b3::
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[go]$$B Var. 2 :w2: tenuki
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X O . O 3 . . .
$$ | . O X . O B . O . .
$$ | . O . X X 1 . . . ,
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . . O . . . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
Getting gote so early in the game is bad, which brings us to Var. 3, next.
The :bc: stone is not important to B. It is still early in the game. It's bad to get gote now.
So Var. 3 is the best choice for :b34: -- tenuki. :)
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[go]$$B Var. 3 :b1: tenuki
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .
$$ | . X X O . O . . . .
$$ | . O X . O B . O . .
$$ | . O . X X 2 4 . . ,
$$ | . . . . . 3 . . . .
$$ | . . O . 5 . . . . .
$$ | . . . . . . . . . .[/go]
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Post #76 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:59 am 
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given that B ends up being gutted, was C18 a mistake then ? what was the good answer locally ? (i understand that B18) was already a mistake but after B18-D18 what is B best ?

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Post #77 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:41 am 
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[go]$$Wcm31 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X X O . O 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . O X X O . . . . . . . O O O . |
$$ | . O . X X . . . . , . . . O O X X O . |
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I'm not sure I agree with black's last move. It's not a huge minus for him, IMO, but I would not have played there.

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Post #78 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:44 am 
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I did some quick reading, and I think I will be ok even if he cuts (either way). It will be complicated though, and I should avoid complications against stronger player. However, I believe that ship has already sailed. Besides, I'm doing this for learning rather than winning (although winning while learning would be nice, of course)

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Post #79 Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:03 am 
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This may end in gote for me, but I hope not. I will try to just play patiently - which is difficult in a handicap game.

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I think he needs to protect those cuts, and if he does I can turn again. If I can keep building outside influence, it should work well with my stones on the right.

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