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Offline dabird
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #41 Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:27 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm25 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I get 'a' and I get 'b' after all! I am not good at positional analysis, but a high approach that is balanced between both strong positions seems like the right place. It has a balance with the low D3 and P3 stones. To get ahead, white have to finish his shimari in the top left *and* play an extension along the top. But that isn't going to happen.
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Offline dabird
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #42 Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:31 pm 
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perceval wrote:
crazy interesting fuseki guys

already i wouldnt want to be either B or W: too hard :shock:



Well for me, I'm using joseki that I have only read about :study:, which may be increasing the complexity. But the cross-corner game makes fuseki pretty weird too. I cast all blame onto Sevis for that. ;-)
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Offline Sevis
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #43 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:46 am 
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I think it's fun. :P And it's only been the same joseki twice so far.

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[go]$$Bcm25 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'd rather not give him the chance to push. Will focus on the top if he responds.
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 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #44 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:52 am 
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[go]$$Bcm25 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . 5 X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 3 . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is, surely, the only move.
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 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #45 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:30 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm29 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . 2 . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Not too bad, I suppose. Still expecting that approach. Wanted to play more to the left, but that left two weak spots, and I didn't like that.
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Post #46 Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:20 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm29 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . 2 . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I feel like this is the only move on the board. Allowing a white shimari here is huge, and big as other moves may be (such as the turn at 'a') just pale in comparison to breaking white's moyo up. Also, Black has no weak groups, so it is time to start a new one.


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[go]$$Bcm29 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . 2 . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . a O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . 1 . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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Post #47 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:05 am 
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Ha! I must have really stumped him on that last move...
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Offline Sevis
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Post #48 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:02 pm 
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Indeed you have -- apologies that I still haven't responded, but I'm thinking about it.

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , d . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . b 1 . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . a . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Considering all these. I think c is too passive, but a makes me want to have my pincer one lower, b feels too aggresive, and d feels like the wrong direction... Still leaning to d, though, as it does give me territory (might play it one to the right).
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Offline Sevis
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Post #49 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:39 am 
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Terribly sorry for the delay.

(Now let's hope all that thinking got me somewhere. :))

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Seeing as a and c are miai to make a base, I think I'll go for this:

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 3 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . 5 , 2 . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . 7 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]



The cut...

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 8 7 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 3 O 0 . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . 4 5 2 . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm41 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X X 1 2 6 7 0 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X O O 3 5 8 . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . O X O 4 9 . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X . a . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


... does not work.
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Offline dabird
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Post #50 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:58 am 
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Well, let's find out.

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 . . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I'm thinking this is going to go like this:

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[go]$$Bcm31 after pushing, do I play 'a' to try for a base, or 'b' to pinch right away?
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . a , 2 4 6 8 . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 7 . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . c . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]

'b' might be better on the 3rd line, but I'm really playing it to expand my moyo on the bottom. Pity I don't have O6. I'm sure I don't have time to play it right now!

I think 'a' is most important; it is sente for the corner, and if white settles by playing around c, I can still expand the moyo with a shoulder hit.
Let's see what Sevis thinks.
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Post #51 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:13 pm 
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Just a heads up -- I'll have a bunch of introductions starting from next week, and going on until early September. Not sure how much I'll be able to post, but will do my best; I do intend to continue this game.

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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Unexpected, but doesn't change much. Expecting the attachment described in the previous post. I am happy to be pushed from behind for a while longer, although C8 will be necessary soon.
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Offline dabird
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Post #52 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:14 pm 
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Ok. I'll "see" you when I "see" you.

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 . . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]





All according to plan :twisted:. I know I'm pushing from behind, but I'm feeling like I have little choice here.
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Offline Sevis
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Post #53 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:00 pm 
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Indeed. I just found out the main introduction will only be four days, not five, as I expected, so perhaps I'll sober up eventually and be able to play. :P

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 6 . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Expecting C8 and horrible pain.
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Offline dabird
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Post #54 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:30 am 
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What is a 4 day introduction?


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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 6 . . , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 7 . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


So I got what I wanted in this position. I hope that the proverb about being careful what I wish for won't be fitting here....
:)
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dabird wrote:
What is a 4 day introduction?
Yes, what are these introductions? I'm curious, too. :)
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Offline Sevis
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Post #56 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:42 pm 
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I'll be studying mathematics at Utrecht University starting September, and it's fairly normal for Dutch universities to organise such a multi-day introduction in order to show people the city/bars. It's called the UIT. I wasn't actually planning on going (or joining a studentenvereniging (friendly student society (?)) or studieverening (some kind of organisation related to what I'm studying), for that matter), but decided it may be fun/interesting/educational/not too bad for my liver at pretty much the last moment.

After that's over, if I join a studentenvereniging (probably Biton), I'll have another two weeks of introduction that consists of, erm, I'm not quite sure what, but hopefully nothing too bad. Then, after that, there's a studievereniging introduction, which is a short camp.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 6 . 8 , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 7 . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Fixing the weakness of J17. Now, expecting a painful death of C11.
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Offline dabird
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Post #57 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:09 pm 
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Utrecht! That is one of the oldest, (the oldest?) university of all. Very exciting!

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[go]$$Bcm31 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , 2 4 6 . 8 , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 7 . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm31 I just don't think 'a' has any vigour. My group is a 4 stone wall, white has a single stone on the outside. I am ready for a fight here. If I play 'a', and white plays 'b', all my effort to make influence has been neutralized. I think I have to strike while the anvil is still hot.
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . a , 2 4 6 . 8 , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 3 5 7 . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . b . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Sevis
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Post #58 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:01 pm 
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One of the oldest in the Netherlands -- I'm not sure about the world. :) I'm looking forward to the beginning of classes, finally getting to do what I love most. :D

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[go]$$Bcm39 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I considered a two-space extension, but it's an armpit hit, and feels like a thank-you move (and generally, life in gote). Let's run away!
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Offline dabird
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Post #59 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:00 pm 
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That sounds great. I hope you enjoy it!



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[go]$$Bcm39 :b100: :w100:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]

Well, here goes. I plan to chase on this side once, then fight with my 4 stone group.
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Offline Redundant
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Post #60 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:27 pm 
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@Sevis and totally not game related

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