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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #141 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:56 am 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . 4 . . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O 5 O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

if he is going to give up that one stone for nothing then what is the purpose of the peep??

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #142 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:13 am 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X 6 X . . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #143 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:19 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X 7 . O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


these little mistakes by kirby will bite his ass later..

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #144 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:26 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm111 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . 0 X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O 9 O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O 8 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'm having fun. :-D

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #145 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:57 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . 1 X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


is he going to save atari as a ko threat?

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 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #146 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:07 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #147 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:17 pm 
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Araban wrote:
Kirby's move may look vigorous, but personally I feel given the global situation it's not the best choice and only gives MW a chance to come back if he gets carried away.
I have the opposite view: Kirby's move was great. It hit the vital spot and was severe, not an overplay. Sure, Kirby has an easy win from here (despite MW unfounded optimism) if he simply plays safe, but since the game is being played for fun, why not go all out and try to play the strongest moves? For that matter, I think I have lost more "won" games by playing overly safe and gradually losing ground than by playing aggressively and risking a large blunder.
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Offline mitsun
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Post #148 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:29 pm 
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[go]$$
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . B . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This move looks even more severe. Note that W has a liberty shortage and cannot cut. This move takes a vital point for W eye shape and constricts W more than the game move. Of course if B just wants to win safely, a narrow extension from the upper right group is fine. But this is the move to go for the jugular. I think it would be the only move if W was leading on the rest of the board and B had to make the most of the local situation.
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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #149 Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:05 pm 
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I look forward to observing the discussion happening with this game. Thanks to all observers who have participated.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #150 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 4:23 am 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 3 . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Harleqin
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Post #151 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:46 pm 
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This is exactly the problem with Black's recent play:

Magicwand wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 3 . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black has played from his strongest stones, instead of the weaker ones
in the top right. He has not even made any great profit.

Now he will have to defend the upper right with great caution, instead
of cruising ahead without worries.

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Offline Bantari
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Post #152 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:59 pm 
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Harleqin wrote:
This is exactly the problem with Black's recent play:

Magicwand wrote:
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . 3 . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Black has played from his strongest stones, instead of the weaker ones
in the top right. He has not even made any great profit.

Now he will have to defend the upper right with great caution, instead
of cruising ahead without worries.

I agree.
The last black move was wrong direction. This might be the beginning of the game-turning point if kirby is not careful.

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Offline Kirby
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Post #153 Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:16 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Yawn...

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #154 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:13 am 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline joppon
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #155 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:02 am 
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Harleqin wrote:
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Black has played from his strongest stones, instead of the weaker ones
in the top right. He has not even made any great profit.

Now he will have to defend the upper right with great caution, instead of cruising ahead without worries.

To me, this seems like a difference of philosophy. Cruising ahead is all very good and well. But, given the fact that B approximately 20 pts ahead, he can choose more or less how he wishes to handle the situation. Is it absolutely necessary that B fights for the corner immediately, or at all? How about a counterattack first.
My mentality would be ...
and I would also have played as mitsun suggested at 'a'
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . 4 . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X a . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #156 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:11 am 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 6 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I hope I don't make a mistake... White should not be able to kill me. I just need to keep balance on the rest of the board.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #157 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:37 am 
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Post #158 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:57 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . 8 . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I want to continue to do stuff on the top. For example:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . B . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But let's just respond where he plays to keep balance elsewhere on the board.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #159 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:21 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 9 . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i have to make him come out of that brick house. i am huffing and puffing but he doesnt want to come out.

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Post #160 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:43 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm121 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X . 0 . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . X . . . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


You know, I don't have that many points. I should be careful not to let him get caught up.

To prevent future catching up, I need to make a presence on the board. I cannot meekly grab territory. I must keep influence on the board.

That's why I'm "jumping" out(?).

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