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Offline Sevis
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #61 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:13 am 
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Thanks to both. :) I'm hoping I'll get enough mathematics knowledge soon to be able to contribute to the maths puzzles here.

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[go]$$Bcm39 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . 1 . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


He has two options now: to chase me towards the bottom, removing his own territory, or to chase me to the top, threatening his line of stones. Not sure which he'll choose, but I think I can get a spare move in to play C13.
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Offline dabird
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #62 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:45 am 
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[go]$$Bcm39 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . 1 . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]




Need to get out of white's area. Peeping at 'a' or 'b' would only hurt my moyo and give me half an eye. Run before living. So long as I keep the white dragon just a little weaker than my own group, I think I will keep the overall balance in my favour.
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[go]$$Bcm39 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . a . b . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Sevis
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #63 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:53 am 
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[go]$$Bcm39 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . 3 . . 6 . . . . . . . . O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Time to make eye-like things.
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Offline dabird
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #64 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:48 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm39 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . 7 , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . 2 . 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . 1 . 3 . . 6 . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


To allow white to play here would be very large. Also, if white ignores, I can get a base, which would allow me to attack his weak group
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Offline EdLee
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Post #65 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:16 am 
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There seems to be a weakness with :wc: ( :w44:) -- W will have to keep an eye on it:
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[go]$$B
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O 2 O 4 O 7 . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . 3 5 6 . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . W . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
Instead of :w44:, perhaps something like this is better for W?
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[go]$$W
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . . , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X 1 . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 4 2 X . 6 . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . 5 . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . 7 . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Sevis
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #66 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:00 am 
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[go]$$Wcm46 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I'm behind. I can't say by how much, but it's a lot. The only chance I have of catching up is to grab initiative, and seeing as E15 is probably alive anyway, I think breaking out into the centre with that group is a good start. This move is sente, if I'm not mistaken:

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[go]$$Wcm46 :b100: :w100:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X 6 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 4 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . 7 5 8 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #67 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:41 am 
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This is getting complicated...
edit: board fix.

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[go]$$Wcm46
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Initially, when I played c16, I was pretty sure it was sente; white would defend the corner with 'b'. But white thinks that :w46: is bigger, presumably because I need to defend it, perhaps something like 'a'. But I do not think this is the case. As for ignoring :w46:, I was considering 'c' to help my weakish group, 'd' to put pressure on white's weak group, and something around 'e', to build my moyo. 'c' is lame, it does very little; 'd' has weaknesses; and I can't find a move around 'e' that works well. So I'm going to push at 'b' to build a base for my group and take points from white. The turn at 'f' would be nice, but there isn't time for that yet.
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[go]$$Wcm46
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . b O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . c . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . d . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . e . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . f O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline Sevis
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #68 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:13 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Interesting possibility:

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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X 7 X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X 5 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 4 O 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Ugh, I'm playing horribly.
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Offline dabird
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #69 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:06 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 . O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I still think :b47: is bigger than :w48:. White had to play 2 moves to make black respond in the right here. On the other hand, he is going to get some much needed outside influence.
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Offline Sevis
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Post #70 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:46 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 5 O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]
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Offline dabird
 Post subject: Re: #134 dabird vs sevis
Post #71 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:15 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O . . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 5 O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I hope I know what I'm doing here! But this group should be able to either get out or live.
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Offline Sevis
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Post #72 Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:47 pm 
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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O 7 . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 5 O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


Hmm, hard choice.

Yay for crazy 8 o'clock moves that look good at the time. :D
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Offline dabird
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Post #73 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:01 am 
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Hard choices: maybe a good sign of a quality game.
:)


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$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O 7 . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 5 O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]

I think :w52: looks threatening, but does no real harm so long as :b53: gets my group out. I don't currently have 2 eyes here, but with :b47:, my upper left group is almost settled; and so I have only 1 weak group. I think white may be able to pressure this weak black group to help his weak group on the left, but I should be still ahead in points even if he does.
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Offline Sevis
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Post #74 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:18 am 
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Terribly sorry, but I seem to have fallen ill -- I'm not sure if I'll have the energy to play in the coming two days, and then the introduction starts (that is, if I can still go)... :( I want to finish this game at some point, but I probably won't have the chance to reply for a while.
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Offline dabird
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Post #75 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:31 am 
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Well that is too bad about being sick, especially just before your start at University.
:sad:
I'll keep my eye on the game and we can continue when you are ready!

Cheers,
-David
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Offline Sevis
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Post #76 Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:56 pm 
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And, I'm back. :) Sorry it took so long,

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[go]$$Wcm46
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . . . O . . . O O O 7 . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . 1 X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . 3 5 O 4 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . . . 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


I remember looking at this move, and I quite like it -- it protects the cut while splitting the two black groups. I'm not sure both of them are alive, although they probably are.
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Post #77 Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:31 pm 
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Welcome Back!

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[go]$$Bcm55
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . . . O . . . O O O O . |
$$ | . . X , O O O . O , . . . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . X X X X . . . . . . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . . . . O O O X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . X . . O . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . O X X X X . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ----------------------------------------[/go]


There isn't really an opportunity to attack the lower right white group, I don't think, so I'll attach to it to make some eye shape before running out. I want to be careful not to let white defend his weak group on the left while attacking this group. So I hope I can settle quickly and then turn my attention to the left side.
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