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Offline Shaddy
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #201 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:51 pm 
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Kirby wrote:
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I would appreciate input as to what people feel my weaknesses are as a player.

If I were to evaluate myself, I would say that I can see the following areas that I could improve upon (in general terms):

1.) I do not read precisely enough. I get lazy, estimate if something will work, and just go for it.

2.) I do not count precisely. I estimate. I just go with what feels right.

3.) My emotions affect my play.

In general, I think that I lack precision. I should concentrate more and calculate precisely.

What do you guys think?

Kirby,
I think you worry too much.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #202 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:34 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]




emeraldemon wrote:
@Magicwand:

Do you feel Kirby has any particular weaknesses as a player? You've played him quite a few times now. What's your opinion of his game?

when i started playing go i became 1 dan less than a year.
although i was 1dan i was lacking experience. playing very strong most of time but will play like 5k some times.
i think kirby is in that stage of the game.
he will need to play many games to improve that weakness.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #203 Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:22 pm 
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after careful analysis...i am down.
close to 10 points.. not too big..

i am sure i will have a chance at least once.
i will wait for that chance and win.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #204 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:49 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X . . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #205 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 5:49 am 
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Shaddy wrote:
Kirby wrote:
@observers:
I would appreciate input as to what people feel my weaknesses are as a player.

If I were to evaluate myself, I would say that I can see the following areas that I could improve upon (in general terms):

1.) I do not read precisely enough. I get lazy, estimate if something will work, and just go for it.

2.) I do not count precisely. I estimate. I just go with what feels right.

3.) My emotions affect my play.

In general, I think that I lack precision. I should concentrate more and calculate precisely.

What do you guys think?

Kirby,
I think you worry too much.


Thanks, I hadn't thought of that one... :-D

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #206 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:10 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X 3 . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . 2 O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #207 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:13 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . 4 X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is a dead shape:
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . O O B C C . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . O B . C C . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . B . B C C . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . B O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . B O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


even if black goes first, unless black can make a second eye in the marked area.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #208 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:11 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . 5 , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
what i played is an overplay... i need to play them to comeback.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #209 Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 9:29 am 
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Interesting move. I hadn't considered it. This is why I like playing Magicwand. He makes some interesting positions that I never thought of.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #210 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:48 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X 6 O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I thought for a little while about this move. My first instinct is to play here:
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O B . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But I'm not sure I like this board position:
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . W . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X . O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O B . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Even to this, I can come up with a calm response, but it makes me wonder about my eye space:
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | 6 4 1 3 . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X 2 O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 7 O B . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This also seems a bit dangerous:
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[go]$$Wcm1 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 1 2 . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . 4 X 3 O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O B . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



So I considered the move in the game:
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X B O C . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X . X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I like this move, because it threatens a future play at the marked intersection, above.

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Offline emeraldemon
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #211 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:27 am 
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I always wonder when I see a post like this in malkovich: 3 diagrams of variations for a move you didn't select, then one "I like this move" diagram with no variations. Did Kirby spend as much time thinking about the move he picked as the move he rejected?

In my own over-the-board play, I've noticed I will sometimes spend some time reading at a point, decide it doesn't work, then just play somewhere else without really studying it because of frustration or fatigue or "oh this looks good I'll try it". I wonder if this could be something similar.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #212 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:27 pm 
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I'll talk a little bit more about the move that I selected. I think that it is a simple response to his move, which guarantees that I do not have to worry about life in this area. The only white response that I have to even really think about is this one:
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X W X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But that response can be met with this:
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . B O , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X W X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Easy as pie. That is, if pie is easy.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 133. Magicwand vs. Kirby
Post #213 Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:38 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X 7 X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
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Post #214 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:48 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . 8 O , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X O X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #215 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:58 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O , . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X O X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . 9 . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #216 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:52 am 
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[go]$$Wcm161 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O 0 . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X O X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #217 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:36 am 
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[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . 1 . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X O X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i think i am successful :) very satisfied.

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Post #218 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:43 am 
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[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 2 . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X O X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Just waiting for a chance to tenuki.

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Offline Chew Terr
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Post #219 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:49 am 
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Kirby:
May I ask why here instead of the obvious D18? Am I missing some severe threat? All I see is B18 (possibly after D19) but I have a hard time convincing myself that this move is necessary. Did you have a specific sequence you feared?

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Post #220 Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:56 am 
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[go]$$Wcm171 Prisoner Count: B-1 W-1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . O . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . X X O . . O X 3 . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . X O X . . O . O , X . . O . X X X . |
$$ | . X O X X X . O X O X O O X X . X O . |
$$ | . . O . O . X . . . X O X O . . X O . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . O X X O . O . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . O . X . . . . O . O X X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . X O X . O X O O . |
$$ | . . O , X . . . . X X X O O O O X X O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . X O O O O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . O O X O X X X X . X X O |
$$ | . . O O . . . O X O X X . X . . X O O |
$$ | . . O X . . . O X O O O O O X X X O . |
$$ | . X X . . . . O X X X X O O O O X O . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . O , . O X O X X O . . |
$$ | . . X O . O . O X X X X X O X X O O . |
$$ | . . X O . . . . O O O O O X . X X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . X X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

if he can win then his move is good..but i think it might bite his aXX later.

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