Ooh, i dont know any followups for this move. It seems a bit more agressive than the usual (?) m14. Im not going to back down though! I'm not sure what happens next, it's kind of hard to read out, a lot of variatons. I think he'll cut with Q13, but I'm prepared for that!

My gut feeling likes the brutalest cut, but it's very complicated:

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[go]$$Bcm11
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . . . , X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

if white resists, fight back like hell (might be risky though):

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[go]$$Bcm11
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . 6 5 , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 3 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 7 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Something like this may also be possible for white (play lightly, treat as kikashi), but I don't know if it's good enough:

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[go]$$Bcm11
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . . . , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Hehe, I've been doubting my last move all morning, there are so many possibilities I'm just not sure if its a good choice. White is easily cut, but so is black. It's too hard for me to read out properly though, so many variations it gives me a headache >< I think if he cuts, ill try to take the corner and minimize his power by playing somewhere on the left (reinforcing q5 too). I have to end in sente for that though.

Ah well, lets first see what his move is, then I don't have to read out the other stuff

I don't know the joseki from here, but I want to resist white's plan (I think it is his plan to build a moyo with Q5 and Q12 or attack my two stones on the top while building a moyo with D16 and K16). My first thought was to push on this line once at 'a'. I was thinking to bluntly push and cut by playing above would weaken my top stones. Also, I didn't want to be sealed in, but to jump one space (R11) would fail since white could cut and sacrifice a stone to capture either R11 or R13. However, white has left a hole behind and now my knight's move is making sense, I can cut white with the N14 stone in place. The alternative, P15, doesn't look interesting to me, since I don't want to help the P14 stone.

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[go]$$Bcm11
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . 4 3 , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 7 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 a . . |
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$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

If white hanes on the other side, it looks even worse for him I think:

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[go]$$Bcm11
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 6 . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . . 3 4 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7 5 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 a . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I guess 12 was a wrong move. meh >< ill just have to live with it. Ill stick to my plan, I'll try to take the corner. In sente an then kill blacks outside. That sounds like a good idea.

I really am starting to doubt this plan. Does white see the outcome more clearly than me? Or perhaps the alternatives are even worse. Or perhaps this won't come out as rosy for black as I think it does.

I read out a few variations, I hope i didnt miss anything. The result will be good for black, but not that bad for white. I think i can take the corner, and link up with k16, or if he's stubborn with p14. I'll post some variations later today (on phone now )

My first feeling is this is a disaster for W:

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[go]$$B
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$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ . O . X . O X , X . . |
$$ . . . . . 1 X . . . . |
$$ . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

(For beginners.) Broken shape for W:

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[go]$$B
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$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . O O . . . |
$$ . O . X . W # , X . . |
$$ . . . . . # # . . . . |
$$ . . . . X . W . . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

W needs to add a move to live in gote in the corner (say ),
then with something like , the right side seems good for B?

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[go]$$B
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O 2 . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]

Almost another joseki. I don't need to be submissive and play the bamboo joint here. At least, as I could read it in my head I don't.

Im reading this:

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[go]$$Bcm19
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 4 2 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

or:

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[go]$$Bcm19
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X 4 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 5 6 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think I can kill blacks stones in the last variation, because r14 and s13 are sente.

I have to cut. Now white must settle his group on the top and I must strive to avoid making a weak group with my 3 stones on the top *and* avoid being sealed in in the corner. I am sure white can live on the top, but I don't think he can connect to K16. For example, he can't attach underneath the marked black stone:

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[go]$$Bcm19 nope...
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 2 3 5 O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . B 4 O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

Or, if white pushes against my M16 stone, it will make it stronger and white still isn't alive yet.

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[go]$$Bcm19 White will have to struggle now.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

On the other hand, if white descends to Q14, I will have to defend my 2 stones. P14 is a cutting stone, so white will surely defend it.

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[go]$$Bcm19 This is the hardest for me and the only way for white, I think. After black 21 on this board, I think white can block at r12. I'm not sure if I can push and cut at p12, this looks like it would lead to trouble for my stones on the top. On the other hand, if white spends the moves to block on the right, he leaves his top stones weak. So, if white insists on blocking on the right, I will attack the top stones. Either with a calm descent to 'a' or poking out his good shape with 'b'. I need to think on those two, should I have the opportunity to play one of them.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a b . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O 2 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

See my previous post for continuation. If it works (after black blocks, and i gotta kill the corner), its not all that bad (still quite good for black though :/). If it doesnt, its quite bad... I think I'll resign then.

Note to self: NEVER play 12 again!

Ok, now white is going to have his work cut out for him. Can he possibly fix the right side *and* live on the top? I don't think so. If I'm right, I have to stay cool and not get caught into a complicated fight on the top. Stay calm, don't lose the initiative and stay solid. If (below), then 5-7 is fine for me, since the white star point stone is now rendered useless. could also be used to start a ko. In fact, that should probably be my move if white chooses this side.

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[go]$$Bcm1 White needs a move on the bottom to live now.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . 6 . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 7 3 2 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . W . X . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |[/go]

On the other hand, if white chooses a hane in the corner, I could sacrifice two stones and connect my groups, giving me some very nice thickness.

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[go]$$Bcm1 If then and black will have miai to attack either of the two marked stones.
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . W . X . O X , X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . @ . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |[/go]

That was quick. Either he didnt read out this variation, or he did and I'll die because I overlooked something... Well, no turning back now, here we go. I'll try to post some variations later!

Oh. Well, I didn't think of that. Which shows my sloppy thinking, I often don't remember to think about every move white might consider. This is going to be complicated. Black is going to make trouble for my 2 corner stones.

Here is what i read:

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[go]$$Bcm19
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X 4 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X 5 6 8 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 O 7 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The moves up to 26 are forced, 27 seems the most reasonable answer for black.

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[go]$$Wcm28
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . O . X . O X O X 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O X X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O X 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . X , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

28-31 are all forced too. It seems my stone at 12 wasnt completely useless after all
After 32, I think black dies.

White is going to extend...

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[go]$$Bcm19 Big trouble? or not?
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Could this work?!?!

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All, or nothing at all. or rather, a little, or nothing at all.

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What can white do now??

Ok, so I think I have to choose from a,b, or c. c helps white's weak group too much, b gives white some options, such as descending to q18, threatening to force me into bad shape. But 'b' gives me the 2x2 point and something that I think is miai for some eye shape. If white 'd', black 'c' and I have some shape. If white 'c', then black 'd' and I have an eye.

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