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What time controls would you definitely want to participate in?
240 + 5/5 2%  2%  [ 8 ]
120 + 10/5 3%  3%  [ 10 ]
90 + 10/5 5%  5%  [ 17 ]
60 + 20/5 9%  9%  [ 29 ]
50 + 20/5 8%  8%  [ 27 ]
40 + 30/5 10%  10%  [ 33 ]
30 + 30/5 11%  11%  [ 36 ]
NOT 240 + 5/5 13%  13%  [ 41 ]
NOT 120 + 10/5 12%  12%  [ 39 ]
NOT 90 + 10/5 7%  7%  [ 24 ]
NOT 60 + 20/5 4%  4%  [ 13 ]
NOT 50 + 20/5 5%  5%  [ 15 ]
NOT 40 + 30/5 5%  5%  [ 15 ]
NOT 30 + 30/5 5%  5%  [ 15 ]
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Post #41 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:09 am 
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I totally don't understand Canadian timing; I'd prefer standard byo-yomi.

Agree.

Why does "Canadian" timing exist in Go at all? The only reason I know of is because that is the only timing used by IGS for many years. And the only reason I know of that IGS used it, is because IGS was largely an adaptation of ICS, the old internet chess server.

Or were tournaments using "Canadian" time before IGS came along? And if so why? And was it called "Canadian" back then?

:?: :?:

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Post #42 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:11 am 
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kirkmc wrote:
I totally don't understand Canadian timing; I'd prefer standard byo-yomi.

Agree.

Why does "Canadian" timing exist in Go at all? The only reason I know of is because that is the only timing used by IGS for many years. And the only reason I know of that IGS used it, is because IGS was largely an adaptation of ICS, the old internet chess server.

Or were tournaments using "Canadian" time before IGS came along? And if so why? And was it called "Canadian" back then?

:?: :?:

All of your questions are answered in this interesting read: http://pages.infinit.net/steven/byoyomi.htm


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Post #43 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:12 am 
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zinger wrote:
kirkmc wrote:
I totally don't understand Canadian timing; I'd prefer standard byo-yomi.

Agree.

Why does "Canadian" timing exist in Go at all? The only reason I know of is because that is the only timing used by IGS for many years. And the only reason I know of that IGS used it, is because IGS was largely an adaptation of ICS, the old internet chess server.

Or were tournaments using "Canadian" time before IGS came along? And if so why? And was it called "Canadian" back then?

:?: :?:


It is the only form of overtime used in British over the board tournaments.

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Post #44 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:17 am 
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I think one reason why canadian time is most used in real-board games is simply because it was the only practical way to deal with byoyomi when there were no digital-clocks around. In germany there are still many many chessclocks used in rl-tournaments, therefore the canadian byoyomi is the prevalent one.

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Post #45 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:18 am 
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Post #46 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:38 am 
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All of your questions are answered in this interesting read: http://pages.infinit.net/steven/byoyomi.htm

Wow, where do you find this stuff? It really is an interesting read and seems to settle everything. Although this bit:

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This is why it might seem presumptuous to think that this simple and elegant solution to the problem of monitoring overtime in go ...

... I completely disagree with.

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Post #47 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:43 am 
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zinger wrote:
Araban wrote:
All of your questions are answered in this interesting read: http://pages.infinit.net/steven/byoyomi.htm

Wow, where do you find this stuff? It really is an interesting read and seems to settle everything. Although this bit:

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This is why it might seem presumptuous to think that this simple and elegant solution to the problem of monitoring overtime in go ...

... I completely disagree with.


Why? Can you think of a simpler, more elegant system of monitoring overtime when you have no digital clocks available?

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Post #48 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:46 am 
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Post #49 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:15 am 
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Why? Can you think of a simpler, more elegant system of monitoring overtime when you have no digital clocks available?


Get some digital clocks is simpler.


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Post #50 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:19 am 
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Just one minor correction: the german internet bundesliga uses 60 & 15/5, not 20/5.

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Post #51 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:23 am 
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HermanHiddema wrote:
Why? Can you think of a simpler, more elegant system of monitoring overtime when you have no digital clocks available?


Get some digital clocks is simpler.


; )


The year is 1980. Good luck getting a digital clock ;-)

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Post #52 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:29 am 
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I don't like time systems that make me spend what little time I have doing division in my head... :)

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Post #53 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:34 am 
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Well, one thing I never understood is that unused time is discarded. It just makes the players unnecessarily prolong the game.

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Post #54 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:41 am 
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I would be interested...

(This thread finally made me register for Life in 19x19 --- I used to post on GD as Dima, but didn't have the time lately.)

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Post #55 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:12 am 
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Count me in. And welcome, Dima!

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Post #56 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:11 am 
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You can count me in, Graham... The only issue I foresee are the time difference but let's give it a try.

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Post #57 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:33 pm 
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Another tournament. Cool. I'm in :cool:

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Post #58 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:06 pm 
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SoDesuNe wrote:
HermanHiddema wrote:
Why? Can you think of a simpler, more elegant system of monitoring overtime when you have no digital clocks available?


Get some digital clocks is simpler.


; )


I feel sure the BGA will be delighted if you want to pay to replace the 30 mechanical clocks I'm currently storing (don't step anywhere in my room! One floorboard moves, half the damned clocks start ticking again ..!), plus the same number a couple of times over that other people are storing, with digital clocks ...!

But I'm still not sure it qualifies as "simpler". :)

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Post #59 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:19 pm 
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Post #60 Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:08 pm 
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Sounds fun. Count me in.

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