34. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)

Magicwand · **#161**

Kirby · **#162**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm102 Move 102 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I think that Magicwand's plan is to get me to try to save my stone in the bottom right. I used to have some aji to work with, and now he took it away. Before, I had some potential for future moves around the following points:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . a . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . b O c | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O d . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

With the move he played, he can put himself into safety pretty easily when trouble comes along:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X 1 | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X 3 X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . 2 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . 4 . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It's not a forced sequence, but I think that his move takes away from a lot of potential that I have in the area. So I could be inclined to answer it... But, that puts me into some potential danger when white plays the following move:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . 2 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X a O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X 1 | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

It becomes a kind of kill or be killed scenario. It's true that I can make a ko for another eye at "a" in the diagram above, but it is kind of risky.

So, I definitely don't think that I should tenuki. I should try to make a solid eye. Now the question is, why did I chose the move that I did?

First of all, I should have an eye, no matter what white tries. Just as a basic example:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X W | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . W W W W . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X 5 . X W W | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X 4 1 B . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O 3 2 O 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X 7 9 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . 8 0 O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Second of all, I should be able to get sente out of this, since it threatens the cut against the group that he didn't protect earlier (the marked stones above).

I think I've read things out. Hopefully, he can't try anything more tricky. His recent moves have been a bit unexpected, so I hope he's not thinking of something I'm not...

Kirby · **#163**

schultz · **#164**

Kirby wrote:

Kirby:

Magicwand · **#165**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm103 Move 103 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X W . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Kirby · **#166**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm104 Move 104 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . B O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Well, I was a bit wrong. I don't think I can get sente with my last move. It's OK, though, because this move takes away some of white's points.

I was hoping that I might get sente because of something like the following:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O 2 3 . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O 1 O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X 5 6 | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X 4 8 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . . O 7 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . 9 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

... but it doesn't seem to work out with the current board positions - my cutting stones don't have enough liberties, especially since we didn't do the 1-3 exchange, above...

I could consider tenuki-ing... There may be a way to live if I tenuki. But the problem is that white has sente to cut off my stone and grab a lot of points. There's probably more than 10 points that he can get here in sente if I tenuki:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . 2 X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . 1 O . x | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O x X x x x | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O x x x x O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O x x x O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Furthermore, the move I played still allows for me to play around with the aji later, and possibly get more points.

I predict black will attack the bottom left corner now.

@shultz

Magicwand · **#167**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm105 Move 105 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Kirby · **#168**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm106 Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . B . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Normally, I would pincer this stone. But I don't want to fight and complicate the game. White has a great wall of power in the center. I need to get points.

If I pincer, I have a feeling he will counter pincer, and I don't like that:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . 7 X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X 6 . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . 8 . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O 4 5 . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . 3 . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . 2 , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can pincer further away, but white can easily counter pincer later. It will be safe for him because he has so much power in the center.

I could try to grab more territory on the top, but white can make a good position on the side:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . 1 . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . 2 . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't like this.

The move I played is not severe on white, so I suspect it may be criticized. But I cannot think of a way to make a more severe move work safely... So I will not play that way for now.

I'd be very interested in learning a better way to handle this board position. I wonder if other people think that I should put more pressure on white. What do you think? I'm interested to know.

Bill Spight · **#169**

prokofiev · **#170**

Bill Spight wrote:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . 3 . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This way Black "gets the last (big) move" though. How much does this matter?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . 4 . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . 1 , 3 . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Is white okay here after taking the big move on the top? (Maybe 3 isn't best, but substitute some similar move if you prefer.)

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bc Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . 3 . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . 2 . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . 1 , 5 . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . 4 . 6 . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This way there's a fight.

Magicwand · **#171**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm106 Move 106 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . W . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Kirby · **#172**

I forgot that today was my wedding anniversary. I found out after my wife told me when I got home from work today :roll:

I have to do some stuff with my wife! I'll make a move a bit later today.

ketchup · **#173**

For observers mostly, and for players after game is over.

Kirby · **#174**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm108 Move 108 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . B . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

The basic reason I want to play this move is to prevent white from playing in the same spot. My bottom left corner can be exploited, I think, but it is too slow to play there and defend right now.

For example:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . 2 . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . 1 O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

in the diagram above secures the corner more, but I think :w2:

is more valuable. It puts pressure on my top left enclosure, and works decently with his wall. Maybe it's a little bit close to his wall, but I can't afford to let him get a lot of points.

I considered playing an attacking move against white's base such as here:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , B . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but I don't see a huge benefit that I can get from the attack, since white has a lot of influence in the area already.

I could also try to exploit the bottom:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . B . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but white is basically safe.

So that's why I decided to take a big point at the top.

1.) It prevents white from playing there.
2.) It helps my corner enclosure to be stronger.
3.) It gains me points.
4.) It makes me slightly stronger if I ever did want to attack his two stone base on the left (which seems rather unlikely, I think).

My first choice for a top-side move was not the move I played, though. I first wanted to play a two-space extension... But I think it is too close to his wall. I don't particularly like the following sequence:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 Diagram Kirb $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 7 3 4 . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X 6 2 1 . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X . 9 8 5 . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . 0 . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm11 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . X X O 1 . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X O O X . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X . X O X . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , 2 . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

but it was the best response I could really think of to :w2:

and

from "Diagram Kirb". If I don't atari at :b5:

in "Diagram Kirb", white can cut off my stones, unless white does the following, which I also don't like:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . 5 3 4 9 . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . 2 1 7 . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X . . . 8 6 . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . a . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , 0 . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I can still get in at "a", but I feel like white has some possibilities for making sizable territory with his wall.

So, I think that the very basic one space jump seems safer. It's not too close to his wall. It still prevents white from extending nicely. It still grabs points. And it helps me for basically the same reasons as the two point jump did - it just doesn't grab quite as many points right now. But later, I could do a knight's move, for example. I think it's an OK move.

Magicwand · **#175**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm109 Move 109 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . W . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Jedo · **#176**

ketchup wrote:

Aphelion · **#177**

quantumf · **#178**

Aphelion wrote:

Joaz Banbeck · **#179**

Kirby · **#180**

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm110 Move 110 - Prisoners: B=3, W=1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . B X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . O . . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . . . X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Well, this hurts me a bit in the balance of points. I thought he would attack the bottom left a bit sooner, but it still hurts. This is another reason why I think that E2 was a really bad move.

I can't read out a way to kill white. If I resist in other ways, it doesn't seem to work, and perhaps even puts me into danger.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . 5 X a . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . 4 6 7 . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . W 1 . O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . . 2 3 X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

For example, above, the cutting point at "a" is pretty dangerous for me. White takes my points, and it's not a great result.

Or I could do:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm1 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . | $$ | . . . . X . X . . . O X X . O O O X . | $$ | . . X , . . . . . , O O X X X X . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O O . . . X X O | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . O O O O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . X O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X . X . X X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O | $$ | . 5 X a . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . | $$ | . 4 6 7 . O . . . O X O O . . O O X . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . O O . . X . O X . X | $$ | . . W . 1 O . . . . . . X O O O X X . | $$ | . 8 . 2 X O . . . . . . . X O X X . . | $$ | . . . . 3 . . . . . . . . . O . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

and the cutting point is still dangerous.

I can't really think of a way to kill white. It could exist, but I can't seem to figure it out.

So I played the move I did. It is unfortunate that he gets more points and I get fewer, but I think that I am still ahead. I think that I can still win this game.

I think the score is kind of close in terms of territory. Maybe I have around 50 or 55, and he has around 45 or 50. That's my rough estimate. So it's still anybody's game. I will try to make it mine, though.

34. Magicwand (3d) vs. Kirby (1d)

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