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Post #21 Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:41 am 
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2. they will talk with google and don't close the door for accessing their Android Market
That's great news and makes a lot of sense. My understanding is that the 30% of the app price that google keeps is split somehow between google, the phone carrier (if any), and the device manufacturer. If Amazon were to add the google market, yes they would get a smaller share, but they would presumably sell more apps, which might make up the difference. I'll hold out hope!
So based on what you said before would that mean that if they did open the door to goole apps it would be a phone app that would download to the Kindle Fire?
Yes, that's what it looks like. But there is also the chance that Amazon will upgrade their firmware to 3.x (Honeycomb) or later eventually. Google hasn't released the 3.x source code yet, which I'm guessing is why Amazon has 2.3 on their tablet. If they get google market, and also switch to a newer version of Android when they can, then this tablet would be as good as any for KGS. It's a couple pretty big ifs, but we can hope. :)

(Of course if it's popular enough then it won't matter to anybody but me whether they add google market or not; I'll have to do the work and get the client there. But I'd rather save myself the effort.)

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Post #22 Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:13 am 
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Post #23 Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:53 am 
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Considering that I don't have a problem watching movies on my iPhone, I think I will be okay with watching them on on a 7 inch screen.

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You can try the Acer Iconia 7". It has Android 3.2 so KGS would look good.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-A100- ... 161&sr=8-1

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Post #24 Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:26 pm 
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Considering that I don't have a problem watching movies on my iPhone, I think I will be okay with watching them on on a 7 inch screen.

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You can try the Acer Iconia 7". It has Android 3.2 so KGS would look good.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Iconia-A100- ... 161&sr=8-1



I will take a look at it, but I kind of want the Kindle Fire because I am a really big Amazon user.

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Post #25 Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:39 pm 
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The Kindle Fire is getting even more attractive now that they are offering a lending library. I have decided to get an Amazon Prime membership. In order to take advantage of the lending library, however, I will need to get a Kindle.

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Post #26 Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:41 pm 
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The Kindle Fire is getting even more attractive now that they are offering a lending library. I have decided to get an Amazon Prime membership. In order to take advantage of the lending library, however, I will need to get a Kindle.


What if you have Kindle software on other devices?

I just don't know how it works but you can use Kindle on any Android, iPhone, or PC.

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Post #27 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:09 am 
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oren wrote:
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The Kindle Fire is getting even more attractive now that they are offering a lending library. I have decided to get an Amazon Prime membership. In order to take advantage of the lending library, however, I will need to get a Kindle.


What if you have Kindle software on other devices?

I just don't know how it works but you can use Kindle on any Android, iPhone, or PC.


I checked that out - its for actual kindles only, not the app.

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Post #28 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:51 am 
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A fun review from a less than enthusiastic user. YMMV - after all, maybe you do not use Google. :blackeye:

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Post #29 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:12 am 
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Yes. The lending library is for actual Kindle devices, and the streaming video is only for the Kindle Fire and laptops and desktops. You can't stream the video to an iPad. It isn't supported.

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Post #30 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:24 am 
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A fun review from a less than enthusiastic user. YMMV - after all, maybe you do not use Google. :blackeye:


I checked out the review. I don't care about those apps. I will probably wouldn't use the Fire for email at all since I would always have my iPhone with me. I only care about one app, and that would be a KGS app. Since I can't be sure it with be available for the Fire any time in the future my best bet is probably to buy a Kindle Touch for 99 bucks, which will not be money wasted even if I eventually buy a Fire, since the Touch would give me an entirely different reading experience for all my Kindle books, and allow me to use the lending library. Assuming that it is worth five dollars a month to me to be able to borrow a book, it wouldn't take long for the Kindle Touch to pay for itself and my husband could borrow it.

I'll just have to be satisfied with using the laptop for the streaming video.

I'm almost ready to buy the Kindle Touch now. I think I have talked myself into it.

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Post #31 Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 10:17 am 
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goddess wrote:

I only care about one app, and that would be a KGS app. Since I can't be sure it with be available for the Fire any time in the future my best bet is probably to buy a Kindle Touch for 99 bucks, which will not be money wasted even if I eventually buy a Fire, since the Touch would give me an entirely different reading experience for all my Kindle books, and allow me to use the lending library.


I posted a link which seems to show how to get the Android Market onto a Kindle Fire earlier in the thread. I'm sure you can find more around now.

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Post #32 Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:28 am 
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Well, now maybe it will have to be the Fire. I am so conflicted I can't stand it.

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Post #33 Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:29 am 
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i have the new kindle fire and it is great. the only problem is that there is not a good app for playing GO online. i can play chess, reversi, chinese chess...BUT not my favorite; go.

please, someone, an app for playing live go.

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Post #34 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:55 am 
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After deciding that the video offerings from Amazon are not good enough to justify purchasing the Fire I reactivated my Netflix account and removed the DVD service. I did finally purchase the Kindle Touch, and I am glad I did. It is an entirely different reading experience than the iPad. The page turning experience is only slightly annoying with the transition from one page to the next, and it is fairly easy to get used to it. The smaller you can keep the text the less frequently you need to turn pages, so I have settled on a fairly small font size. In two days I am already nearly halfway through my first free loaner book from Amazon. I was lucky enough to get a loan on the 28th of November and saw that I could borrow again on the 1st of December. So they apparently go by the calendar month rather than the date you first borrow. I'm not going to regret getting the Kindle Touch even if I go on to eventually get the Kindle Fire. I tried the text to speech functionality, and the voice was less robotic than I expected it to be. It was kind of nice to be able to follow along with the audio while the pages were turned automatically for me. I didn't do that for long, however, as I prefer to read for myself.

Has anyone managed to get the KGS phone app on the Fire yet? If so, what is the experience like?

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Post #35 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:06 am 
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A colleague returned the Touch for the regular Kindle, because he was annoyed by the page turning, and felt it was just as easy to press the buttons on the cheaper Kindle.

I did buy the cheap Kindle, and while the contrast is better than the Kindle I bought a couple of years ago, it's still not good enough for me. I prefer the iPad's backlight, even though it's much heavier than the Kindle. I also find the Kindle's screen to be a bit too small.

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Post #36 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:31 am 
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My initial impression was that the contrast wasn't sharp enough for me either. But then I realized that I just needed to "put a little light on the subject". I was so used to being able to sit in low light to read on the iPad that I had forgotten the importance of lighting for reading. I found that I got used to the contrast fairly quickly, and I like the fact that it is lighter and smaller for reading. I doubt that I will abandon reading on the iPad altogether. Whisper Sync insures that I can pick up where I left off on either device. I'll probably continue to use both.

Are you saying that the page turning on the regular kindle doesn't flicker like it does on the Touch? I doubt I would trade it in to get rid of the flicker. It sure is nice to have options.

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Post #37 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:37 am 
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I find that in the same light I use to read dead-tree books, it's not enough light for the Kindle.

No, it flickers; I think my friend was just saying that there's more of a lag than when pressing the buttons on the regular Kindle.

This said, I would like to see the Fire, and how it stacks up just as an ebook reader. It's a bit lighter than the iPad, though the screen is smaller.

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Post #38 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:03 pm 
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I am sure that the Fire would be a nice book reader. I just felt that it was going to be too much like the iPad. What I was surprised about is how sturdy the Kindle Touch is. As I was opening the package I thought it looked a lot like an external usb hard drive from the back. The metal is nice.

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Post #39 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:02 pm 
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I'm also wondering if I should get myself a Fire for Xmas... actually it's more or less like an ipad 2, smaller and lighter (with its pros and cons), and since you can insert both android market and/or other android OS. And it's price is about a third of the ipad2 in Spain...

the real question is: is it really comfortable to spend long hours on a device like ipad? I mean it because of the retro-ilumination should tire your eyes...

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Post #40 Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:13 pm 
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the real question is: is it really comfortable to spend long hours on a device like ipad? I mean it because of the retro-ilumination should tire your eyes...


I think this is something you'll have to try for yourself. I've seen some reviews where the person can't stand reading on tablets because of the backlight. Personally, I do all my reading (other than textbooks for school) on a 10" Android tablet, and I think it's a great experience. But then, I spend 90% of my time in front of a screen anyway, so maybe I'm just used to having a backlit display.

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