Magicwand, In this:

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[go]$$B Monkey jump
$$ -----------------
$$ . . x 3 . 1 2 . .
$$ . . X a . . 4 . .
$$ . . X O O O . O O
$$ . . X X . . O O .[/go]

a is sente for white, so they don't both have rights to it, white will get "a"

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thank you... i had a feeling something was not right.. i couldnt figure what that was..

then below is correct?

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[go]$$B Monkey jump
$$ -----------------
$$ . . x . 3 1 2 . .
$$ . . X . . . 4 . .
$$ . . X O O O . O O
$$ . . X X . . O O .[/go]

edit:
then difference is full 1 point?

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Your play is right, but your count is wrong, as Shapenaji says. I have modified my previous post accordingly.

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thank you

i didnt sleep last nite so i think my mind is not clear.
i remember studying them 20 years ago...
since then i really didnt care about exact count..

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Hwang In-seong 8d, one of the top players in Europe, recently beat a 4d on 5 stones at the "Go To Innovation 2011 Tournament" in Berlin. It included an absolutely beautiful sequence which punished the wrong answer to a monkey jump. He answered at Magicwand's b, when he should have played the safer c (or not ignored s5). The magic begins at move 180.

i believe black would have lost the game even if he answer correctly. and both players knew already the result..

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Thanks for posting this high-quality high-handicap game. I was looking for something exactly like this to study.

Just saying: Go to Innovation uses the Hahn system. Losing the game is of minor importance, the point difference matters more.

Except that a too great point difference (this punishes the mega-killers!) is not rewarded and that there are steps of 10 points.

I really have a love hate relationship with the monkey jump lol

You should check out the lecture serise on Monkey Jumps at the Internet Go School. The lessons I beleive where by Gou Juan (Sp) and clearly laid out the situational cercumstances that you must look at to determine which strategy is correct for dealing with the Monkey Jump.