145. Magicwand vs. Kirby (Christmas Special)

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:03 pm

After

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Broken shape for B, and :b18:

(

) seems to have lost (most of?) its meaning (which was what? )

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:59 am

Kirby: incase you missed post..it is your turn

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:49 am

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@Shaddy:

I guess I should be ashamed. Though saying it doesn't fix anything. Only the result matters.

I spoke earlier of making sure to read well as go is a thinking game. Well, maybe I was too lazy here. I assumed it would be good to move the bottom stones and attack white, but I did not think of many variations.

Maybe I just talked about reading earlier to sound cool - to try to show that I've improved my thinking about go.

Maybe I'm doing the same thing now. Like I said, only the result matters - not if I convince others that my attitude about go is strong. It's not, as I can see here... But have I really convinced myself?

I really don't know.

To get to your question, here was my original plan:

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Then I didn't read further than that. Crappy, huh? The sequence is only 4 moves long, and I didn't even consider an alternative to :w1:

.

Furthermore, upon further looking ahead, I don't even think the picture above is good for black. Even this seems like white wins:

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And Magicwand played an even better response for the first move. It's better because I can no longer move back my stone in sente.

So, yeah... I was just talk, I think. It seems to be a pattern in my malkovich games. It's even a pattern in my other games because I talk the same crap, but just try to convince myself instead of observers here.

I'd like to say I've gotten over it and have learned - that might be typical of me. But I will try not to fool anyone. Only the result matters. I will not promise anything prior to that. At least I'll try not to... Maybe.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:16 am

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Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:32 am

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:17 pm

R11

Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:27 pm

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Still thinking...

lightvector · Post by **lightvector** » Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:00 pm

With the move in the game, white gave up a few possibilities. For example, the clamp aji is interesting if black loses enough liberties around.

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It's not instantly clear to me whether black can resist it even as it is now.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$W Interesting possibilities $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . $$ | . X X . O X . . . . . $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . $$ | . 5 . . . O . . . . . $$ | . . . X X X O . . X . $$ | . . 3 4 X O O X O O . $$ | . . W X O O . . . . . $$ | . . . 2 . . . . . . . $$ -----------------------[/go]

Even if the clamp doesn't work, white at least has this respectably large sente in the endgame.
(Actually, black's move 6 seems to turn 'a' into gote, so it's not obvious if this is the best for white, and white doesn't gain quite as much. I think black has a similar trick if white tries 'a' first.)

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But a useful thing to note here is that in this shape Black has to back down with :b2:

and let white crawl one space further in. If he instead resists, :w3:

is tesuji.

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White lives or gets a massive flower-viewing ko. The marked black stone is slightly too far to permit black to poke out white's second eye.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$B White life or ko. $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . $$ | . B X . O X . . . . . $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . $$ | . . . X X X O . . X . $$ | . . 2 3 X O O X O O . $$ | 6 . O X O O . . . . . $$ | . 4 X 5 1 . . . . . . $$ -----------------------[/go]

In general in this shape, where the peep at 3-3 is available, the corner can be much smaller than it looks due to all these possibilities. Many of these possibilities involve white not peeping at 3-3 right away, instead exploiting the weakness more indirectly.

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:31 am

to read what kirby is thinking...
"since white tenukied i should make him pay for it."
first instinct is as below..

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since above doesnt work..kirby might try something like below.
hum...it might work..but black's surrounding has weakness so i think it is not bad as it appears to be.

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Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:44 am

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Shaddy · Post by **Shaddy** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:02 am

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Why make a two-space extension towards your thickness?

Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:41 pm

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Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:10 pm

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Magicwand · Post by **Magicwand** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:51 pm

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Kirby · Post by **Kirby** » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:14 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Wcm41 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . X X . O X . . . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X O . . . . . . . . X . X . . | $$ | . . . . . O . . . . . . O . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X X X O . . X . . X . . O . X . | $$ | . . O . X O O X O O . X . O . O X . . | $$ | . . X X O O . . . . X O . . . . 5 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

I don't think the alternative I thought of works:

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or at the marked spot either, instead of atari.

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