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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #221 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:52 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm135 Move 135 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . W X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
that is why you must exchange as per below whenever you have that shape.
if you dont you might lose some points or lose something big..
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[go]$$Bc Move 135 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . . . . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . . X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . 1 O 3 X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . 2 4 O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #222 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:55 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm136 Move 136 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O B . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I lost a lot of points here. I need to come up with a plan.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #223 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 6:59 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm137 Move 137 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O W . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #224 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:02 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm138 Move 138 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . B . . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The good thing about the attack was that I have sente, so I can counter attack his base. I need to take away points from him, like he did from me. I'm glad that I cut his groups earlier, now.

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #225 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:06 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm139 Move 139 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . W O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i guess when he lose his mind he doesnt think.
his group is still in danger...and he can not play such move.

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #226 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:40 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm140 Move 140 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . B O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X . . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I made a mistake. I am not alive with my group on the left. The problem is, now that I made this last exchange, I cannot make two eyes locally anyway. I am in trouble, now...

So my only chance is to make his group weak, too, so that I can hopefully make life. If not, I lose. If I live, I might have a chance, but I will probably die.

I guess it's this or nothing.

Mistakes really affect you in go...

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: 34. Magicwand vs. Kirby, part 2
Post #227 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 7:55 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm141 Move 141 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X W . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i think what i played is correct.
when you have a chance to kill you must count. do i wanna try to kill this group?
if you have any doubt and you try to look for a way by not killing it.
i think i can kill it but i am not sure. my group is too weak for me to kill it clean.
if he let me live i am perfectly satisifed with that.

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Offline Kirby
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Post #228 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:09 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm142 Move 142 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . B . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess it comes down to this...

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Post #229 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:15 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . W . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i think it is going to die if i try. but i dont wanna try. i will try to find a way for him to live in gote.
that is a simpler way to win.
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[go]$$Bc Move 143 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . 2 . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . 1 . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . W . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #230 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:17 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . B . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


The most direct way to escape...

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Post #231 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:45 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . W . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O . . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i will try to capture them when i am 100% sure i can catch them.

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Post #232 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:03 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm143 Move 143 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O B . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think I'm going to die. This is just a last ditch effort.

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Post #233 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:30 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O . . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X W . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i will try to use the path of least resistance

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Post #234 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:41 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O B . . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #235 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:58 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O . O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O X W . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #236 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:00 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . . . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O B O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O X O . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #237 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:03 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . . W . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O X O . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

this is a sente! but i have a feeling that he will ignore this and tenuki.
either way he will lose big. i dont see any point in going further. next game will be 3 stone... i think i can win that game also.

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Offline quantumf
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Post #238 Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:32 am 
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[go]$$Bcm147 Move 147 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . B O . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O X O . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Is magicwand's confidence appropriate? This is a lot of points on the left for black. White can't defend both sides of his central territory in one move, can he? By my reckoning black is about 20 points ahead. What am I missing?
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Post #239 Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:17 am 
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[go]$$Bcm148 Move 148 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . B O . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O X O . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . . X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I am behind a bit now. I didn't expect him to sacrifice his stones, but now he gets a lot of center points. It's OK, though. The game is still within reach. I have to play endgame well, though.

I wanted to ignore, but I couldn't find a way to make it work:
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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . 0 9 X 7 . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O 5 6 8 . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X 1 4 O . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | 3 O O X O . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | 2 . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . B X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm11
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . X O . O . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O O X X 1 . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X O X O . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | O O O X O . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | X . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . B X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


After :w11: above, I couldn't figure out a way to escape and get his stones. I thought for awhile about it, but I couldn't make it work.

Now I think I am probably about 10 points behind. I wonder if I can play endgame well enough to make up for this.

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Post #240 Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 9:04 am 
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[go]$$Bcm149 Move 149 - Prisoners: B=3, W=2
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X X O . |
$$ | . . X . X X X . . . O X X . O O O X . |
$$ | . . X O . O . . . , O O X X X X . . X |
$$ | . . . X . . . X . . . O O . . . X X O |
$$ | . X O . . . . . . . O X O X O O O O . |
$$ | . X . X O . . . O . O X X X . . X O O |
$$ | . X O X O . . . . O X X . X . X X . . |
$$ | . O O X O . . . . . O O X X . O X . . |
$$ | . . . X O . . . . O . X . X . , X O . |
$$ | . . X . O X . . . . . X . O . X O O . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O O X . O . X . . . |
$$ | . X O O X . . . . . X . X O . . . . O |
$$ | . X X O O . . . W X . X X O . . . O . |
$$ | . O X . . O . . . O X O O . . O O . O |
$$ | . O X X . . . . . O O . . X . O X O X |
$$ | . . O . X O . . . . . . X O O O X X . |
$$ | . . . O X O . . . . . . . X O X X . X |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . O . . X . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i am ahead more than 10 points so the game is over.
way i played is simple and gives him no chance to comeback.

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