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Offline Numsgil
 Post subject: Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Post #21 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:19 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm19
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm20
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 6 . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . 5 4 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 1 X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . 0 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 9 7 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


Not for you:
I'm still okay with black here.

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 Post subject: Re: Numsgil (3k) vs shapenaji (6d) - Donut Board
Post #22 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:34 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm30
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . . . W . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I really like the placement of the marked stone, it leads to great interactions with the convex corners

EDIT: oh... and BWAHAHAHA

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Post #23 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:08 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm31
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . 1 . W . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I'm still okay with this for black. Nothing's changed, so I'll play it again :)

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Post #24 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:12 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm31
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , W . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I still think this is good, for the previously stated reasons, his pincer has some issues.


(Thanks for the flash tutorial there, couldn't get it to work)

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Post #25 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:20 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm33
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


Now the game really begins...

This is a pincer to white's stone, an approach against the corner, and right on the boundary of the side/corner transition (the Q column), so I think it's a pretty solid move.

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Post #26 Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:25 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm34
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


A good pincer, hoped he would pincer a little closer, this isn't quite as pretty as the other one, but I still get life here,

I second-guessed myself a few times before deciding on playing here, it gets complicated, but it aims to make use of the strong point at "z"

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[go]$$Bcm33
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . z . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . 2 b . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . c a . . , O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]



"a" and "b" are very easily dealt with, but "c" is complicated, and I don't know if it's worth it.

I nearly played "a" myself, but decided that this route, though more complicated, holds no danger.

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[go]$$Bcm33
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . 0 . 8 2 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . 3 4 . . , O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . 5 6 1 . . . . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . 9 . 7 . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I think this is his best sequence, he gets life on the bottom, and I get it on the top

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Harumph. :scratch:

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[go]$$Bcm35
$$ --------------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . , O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I'd really like to try separating his stones one way or another, but I don't see a way to do that and make life locally. And I don't think I like the idea of running on this board. It's too easy for the attacker to make profit rather directly.

The problem is that if I play like this to try and seal white in, he gets the interior corner point. It's a rather hard stone to approach, so it makes the cross cut simply not work. I don't see any variations from this point that look appealing to me at all.

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[go]$$Bc1
$$- - - - - . . . . . . |
$$- - - - - . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . 2 . . . . . |
$$. . . . O 1 . . . . . |
$$, . . . . . . , O . . |
$$. O . . . X . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$. . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -------------------[/go]


Since white outnumbers me in the region, and I don't see a compelling attack line, I'll just try and make life locally, and the way to do that is by flinging stones around as attachments to shake the tree and see what falls out.

Maybe something like this as a reasonably convoluted continuation:

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[go]$$Bc1
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . 3 O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X . 2 1 5 . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


The variations branch from here, but I won't embarrass myself by trying to show them :) But I think this is reasonable.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
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$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . W . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . a , O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X . . X . . |
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$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


a is also a possibility, but I like the crosscuts here, I stand by the marked move as a way out. I never see any danger in crosscuts, because essentially, if YOU are the one getting crosscut, you have flexibility to decide which side is more important.

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[go]$$Bcm36
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


Crosscut. Seems like the best way to get a good result.

I can't really reliably read past it, though (there's just too many variations). But I think no matter what white tries I can make sabaki and live locally, which is good enough.

I'll be mildly upset if there's some clever line I don't see that renders me inert and on the run.

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[go]$$Wcm37
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . 1 X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


Man I love me some crosscuts, here's how it ought to play out:

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[go]$$Wcm37
$$ --------------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . 2 6 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . 1 X O 4 . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X 3 O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


And I'm feelin awfully happy, settled, more or less captured the pincer stone, there are shenanigans, but nothing dangerous.

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Looks difficult to invade, doesn't it ?

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[go]$$Wcm37
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . 2 6 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . 1 X O 4 . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X 3 O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 7 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
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$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . 1 . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X . O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I was debating these two different lines:

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[go]$$Bcm38
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$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . 1 7 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X O 3 . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X 2 O X 5 . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]



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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . 2 . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O 4 O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X O . . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X 1 O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]



Just continuing my variation from before

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X O 1 . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I'll be interested to see if I read out the forcing moves correctly. Or if he decides just to leave it as aji for now.

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X . . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X 2 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X O X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Accepted! I combined the captures and komi into the caption.

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[go]$$Bcm45 White + 5.5
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I was going to try and find a way to minimize the forcing moves. I don't mind him doing the work :) Honestly I'd probably have chosen this way anyway, though I would've read something like this:

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[go]$$Wcm1
$$ | . . . , . . - - - - - - - - - . . , . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X 2 . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X 3 . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


I feel like these stones still need a base, though. I think on this board you either have two eyes or you're heavy.

This works well with my stones in the top right corner, too. The right side is becoming sorta big. I expect he'll either close his top left corner next or play something on the right side.

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[go]$$Wcm46 White + 5.5
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]



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[go]$$Bcm45 White + 5.5
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X b . |
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$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


still have "a" and "b" to reduce the right

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[go]$$Bcm47 White + 5.5
$$ --------------------------------------------
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . 1 . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . . . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
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$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


Round two I guess?

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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . O . X . . . X . X O . . |
$$ | . . O , . . 1 . . . , . . . . . . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . - - - - - - - - - . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . O X . . . . . . . . . . . O . . X X . . |
$$ | . . O X . . . . . . , . . . . . O X . X . |
$$ | . . O X . X . . . X . O . . . X O O X . . |
$$ | . . O O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . O O . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ --------------------------------------------[/go]


This time I have a little backup on the left, so repeating the previous sequence wouldn't make sense, I also have something to extend to along the side. I like this shoulder hit.

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