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Post #101 Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:16 am 
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Kisei finals:
Takao Shinji beats Cho U and gets 1-0 lead. next round in two weeks

Meijin league:
Hane Naoki beats Uchida Shuhei
Mizokami Tomochika beats Kim Sujun

Honinbo league:
Iyama Yuuta beats Yuki Satoshi
Kono Rin beats Ko Iso

too bad, i always cheer for newcomers and underdogs (ie. Uchida and Ko) and it just so happens that they usually lose

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Post #102 Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:46 am 
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I don't know if Kono Rin can be called an underdog, but he fought in through the preliminary bracket and is now 3-1, tied with Iyama Yuta.

Also, your dog should hang out with ez4u's dog :)

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Post #103 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:35 am 
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I don't know if Kono Rin can be called an underdog, but he fought in through the preliminary bracket and is now 3-1, tied with Iyama Yuta.

Also, your dog should hang out with ez4u's dog :)


yeah, it is nice to see Kono rising again

and you are right about the dog. they look similar and yet so different :D

Honinbo league:
Hane Naoki beats Takao Shinji

on Thursday:

Honinbo league: Cho U - Seto Taiki
Meijin league:
Iyama - Kono
Takao - Yuki

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Post #104 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:26 am 
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points earned by pro:
Park Yeonghun : 11
Kim Jiseok : 9
Jiang Weijie : 9
Cho U : 9
Won Sungjin : 7
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Takao Shinji : 5
Iyama Yuta : 5
Cho Hanseung : 5
Kong Jie : 4
Xie He : 3
Kono Rin : 3
Ko Iso : 3
Gu Li : 3
Choi Cheolhan : 3
Mizokami Tomochika : 2
Hane Naoki : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Park Jungsang : 1
Park Junghwan : 1
Lee younggu : 1
Lee Sedol : 1
Kang Dongyun : 1

player standings:
prokofiev : 68
Laman : 59
hyperpape : 57
jordus : 50
Araban : 39
topazg : 38
lovely : 38
daal : 38
Barrauss : 35
Stevenson : 32
marcus : 28
hailthorn011 : 25
lindentree : 18
daniel_the_smith : 9

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Post #105 Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:01 pm 
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GS Caltex Cup (ro 32):
Kim Hyeongwoo beats Heo Yeongho
Joo Hyeongwuk beats Han Sanghoon
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Meijin league:
Kono Rin beats Iyama Yuuta
Takao Shinji beats Yuki Satoshi

Honinbo league:
Cho U beats Seto Taiki

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Post #106 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:55 am 
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points earned by pro:
Park Yeonghun : 11
Cho U : 10
Kim Jiseok : 9
Jiang Weijie : 9
Won Sungjin : 7
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Takao Shinji : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Iyama Yuta : 5
Cho Hanseung : 5
Kono Rin : 4
Kong Jie : 4
Xie He : 3
Ko Iso : 3
Gu Li : 3
Choi Cheolhan : 3
Mizokami Tomochika : 2
Hane Naoki : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Park Jungsang : 1
Park Junghwan : 1
Lee younggu : 1
Lee Sedol : 1
Kim Hyeongwoo : 1
Kang Dongyun : 1
Joo Hyeongwuk : 1
Han Jongjin : 1

player standings:
prokofiev : 70
Laman : 62
hyperpape : 59
jordus : 52
Araban : 41
topazg : 39
lovely : 39
daal : 38
Barrauss : 36
Stevenson : 33
marcus : 30
hailthorn011 : 25
notes : 22
lindentree : 18
daniel_the_smith : 9


prokofiev still has a healthy lead. Looking at the Meijin and Honinbo leagues, he's not backing Iyama Yuta or Kono Rin, so perhaps you all should be rooting for them to win :)

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Post #107 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:41 am 
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I don't think I was the only one who made his picks based on thinking that the competition would start at the beginning of the season (instead of things like Kuksu final and whatnot), so we should catch up.

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Post #108 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:14 pm 
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I don't think I was the only one who made his picks based on thinking that the competition would start at the beginning of the season (instead of things like Kuksu final and whatnot), so we should catch up.


I thought about doing it that way, but it felt like there would be too few games to look at. Even as is we sometimes have a week go by without any pro matches to add to our points.

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Post #109 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:41 pm 
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lovely wrote:
I don't think I was the only one who made his picks based on thinking that the competition would start at the beginning of the season (instead of things like Kuksu final and whatnot), so we should catch up.


I thought about doing it that way, but it felt like there would be too few games to look at. Even as is we sometimes have a week go by without any pro matches to add to our points.


Oh, I don't have a problem with it. Just saying that's the strategy I used when picking my team :)

Though, I wish I saw Kono Rin's resurgence coming :shock:

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Post #110 Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:45 am 
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Cho U wins the second Kisei game, making the score 1-1.



Also added the GS Caltex round 1 wins for the games that have been played.

points earned by pro:
Cho U : 12
Park Yeonghun : 11
Kim Jiseok : 10
Jiang Weijie : 9
Won Sungjin : 7
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Takao Shinji : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Iyama Yuta : 5
Cho Hanseung : 5
Kono Rin : 4
Kong Jie : 4
Xie He : 3
Ko Iso : 3
Gu Li : 3
Choi Cheolhan : 3
Mizokami Tomochika : 2
Hane Naoki : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Park Jungsang : 1
Park Junghwan : 1
Lee Younggu : 1
Lee Sedol : 1
Kim Seungjun : 1
Kim Hyeongwoo : 1
Kang Dongyun : 1
Joo Hyeongwuk : 1
Han Jongjin : 1

player standings:
prokofiev : 73
Laman : 66
hyperpape : 62
jordus : 53
Araban : 43
lovely : 41
topazg : 39
daal : 39
Barrauss : 38
Stevenson : 34
marcus : 30
hailthorn011 : 26
lindentree : 18
daniel_the_smith : 9

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Post #111 Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:31 am 
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Takao Shinji defeated Cho U in the third Kisei final



points earned by pro:
Cho U : 12
Park Yeonghun : 11
Kim Jiseok : 10
Jiang Weijie : 9
Takao Shinji : 8
Won Sungjin : 7
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Iyama Yuta : 5
Cho Hanseung : 5
Kono Rin : 4
Kong Jie : 4
Xie He : 3
Ko Iso : 3
Gu Li : 3
Choi Cheolhan : 3
Mizokami Tomochika : 2
Hane Naoki : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Park Jungsang : 1
Park Junghwan : 1
Lee Younggu : 1
Lee Sedol : 1
Kim Seungjun : 1
Kim Hyeongwoo : 1
Kang Dongyun : 1
Joo Hyeongwuk : 1
Han Jongjin : 1

player standings:
prokofiev : 75
Laman : 68
hyperpape : 62
jordus : 55
lovely : 43
Araban : 43
topazg : 41
daal : 39
Barrauss : 38
Stevenson : 36
marcus : 32
hailthorn011 : 26
lindentree : 18
daniel_the_smith : 9


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Post #112 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:00 pm 
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LG Final game 1:



points earned by pro:
Jiang Weijie : 12
Cho U : 12
Park Yeonghun : 11
Kim Jiseok : 10
Takao Shinji : 8
Won Sungjin : 7
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Iyama Yuta : 5
Cho Hanseung : 5
Kono Rin : 4
Kong Jie : 4
Xie He : 3
Ko Iso : 3
Gu Li : 3
Choi Cheolhan : 3
Mizokami Tomochika : 2
Hane Naoki : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Park Jungsang : 1
Park Junghwan : 1
Lee Younggu : 1
Lee Sedol : 1
Kim Seungjun : 1
Kim Seongjae : 1
Kim Hyeongwoo : 1
Kang Dongyun : 1
Joo Hyeongwuk : 1
Han Jongjin : 1
An Kukhyun : 1

player standings:
prokofiev : 75
Laman : 69
hyperpape : 65
jordus : 56
lovely : 43
Araban : 43
topazg : 41
Barrauss : 41
daal : 39
Stevenson : 36
marcus : 32
hailthorn011 : 26
lindentree : 18
daniel_the_smith : 9

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Post #113 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:44 am 
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Jiang Weijie won the LG Cup!



points earned by pro:
Jiang Weijie : 15
Cho U : 12
Park Yeonghun : 11
Kim Jiseok : 10
Takao Shinji : 8
Won Sungjin : 7
Lee Changho : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Iyama Yuta : 5
Cho Hanseung : 5
Kono Rin : 4
Kong Jie : 4
Xie He : 3
Ko Iso : 3
Gu Li : 3
Choi Cheolhan : 3
Mizokami Tomochika : 2
Hane Naoki : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Park Jungsang : 1
Park Junghwan : 1
Lee Younggu : 1
Lee Sedol : 1
Kim Seungjun : 1
Kim Seongjae : 1
Kim Hyeongwoo : 1
Kang Dongyun : 1
Joo Hyeongwuk : 1
Han Jongjin : 1
An Kukhyun : 1

player standings:
prokofiev : 75
Laman : 69
hyperpape : 68
jordus : 56
Barrauss : 44
lovely : 43
Araban : 43
topazg : 41
daal : 39
Stevenson : 36
marcus : 32
hailthorn011 : 26
lindentree : 18
daniel_the_smith : 9


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Post #114 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:08 am 
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In spite of my picks, I was still rooting for Lee Changho.

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Post #115 Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:29 pm 
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Updates: Xie He has gone 3-0 so far in the Nongshim Cup, also added GS Caltex 2nd round results so far, and Honinbo and Meijin League results. The Honinbo league is wrapping up, and there's a three-way tie right now: Iyama Yuta, Takao Shinji, and Kono Rin are all 4-1.


Here's the Xie He vs. Won Sungjin match:



points earned by pro:
Jiang Weijie : 15
Cho U : 15
Kim Jiseok : 12
Park Yeonghun : 11
Won Sungjin : 9
Takao Shinji : 9
Xie He : 7
Lee Changho : 7
Iyama Yuta : 7
Tan Xiao : 6
Kono Rin : 6
Baek Hongsuk : 6
Cho Hanseung : 5
Kong Jie : 4
Park Junghwan : 3
Lee Younggu : 3
Lee Sedol : 3
Ko Iso : 3
Kang Dongyun : 3
Hane Naoki : 3
Gu Li : 3
Choi Cheolhan : 3
Mizokami Tomochika : 2
Piao Wenyao : 1
Park Jungsang : 1
Kim Seungjun : 1
Kim Seongjae : 1
Kim Hyeongwoo : 1
Joo Hyeongwuk : 1
Han Jongjin : 1
An Kukhyun : 1

player standings:
prokofiev : 88
hyperpape : 83
Laman : 82
jordus : 64
lovely : 55
Araban : 52
Barrauss : 51
topazg : 47
Stevenson : 46
daal : 45
marcus : 43
hailthorn011 : 39
lindentree : 22
daniel_the_smith : 13

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Post #116 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:46 am 
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It's March now, which means this is the end of the planned time for the first fantasy go league. It's been not quite 4 months, and I'd like to ask a few questions to those of you still following along:

1) Did you have fun?
2) What would you have done differently?
3) What would you like to do next? We could keep going without changing anything, we could recalculate the pro prices, we could let everyone pick completely new teams, we could change some of the rules...

For my part, it's been fun administrating the league, even though I didn't pick a team (didn't want to seem biased). I do think it would be cool if we got more into reviewing the games themselves.

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Post #117 Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:05 am 
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I definitely had fun.

A small thing: I found it distracting to continually click through and look at what other people had on their teams. Eventually, I sort of gave up on seeing where people were getting points during updates--it felt a little too much like work. But it also helps your anticipation if you know who has picked a given player in an upcoming match.

I think this could be improved by posting who got points from each win and/or having a single post that collects the teams chosen by each individual player.

I would definitely not be averse to some sort of change that encourages variety in who we choose. When you have substantial overlap, you get a lot of games where you can't change your relative standings.

If anyone is ever game for it, I think a year long league would diminish the extent to which league members are rewarded for scrutinizing who will play the most games in the next three months.

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Post #118 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:57 am 
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emeraldemon wrote:
It's March now, which means this is the end of the planned time for the first fantasy go league. It's been not quite 4 months, and I'd like to ask a few questions to those of you still following along:

1) Did you have fun?
2) What would you have done differently?
3) What would you like to do next? We could keep going without changing anything, we could recalculate the pro prices, we could let everyone pick completely new teams, we could change some of the rules...

For my part, it's been fun administrating the league, even though I didn't pick a team (didn't want to seem biased). I do think it would be cool if we got more into reviewing the games themselves.


1) Yes
2) I'm not sure how, but somehow I would have liked the possibility of being more active and not just waiting to see the results you posted. Perhaps if the pro's value would change in real time and there were some way to reshuffle one's team by buying and selling players.


I also would like to see more reviews. Perhaps players could earn extra money by offering their own review of a game. Could be fun(ny).

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Post #119 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:16 pm 
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I agree that it would be cool if we could make the game more interactive somehow, although I'm not sure how, exactly. I like the reviews-for-points idea, something to make people take more interest in particular games. Maybe somehow bidding points on specific matches?

I also agree with hyperpape, many matches had both pros "owned" by several players. Maybe just lowering the points each player can use could fix that, not sure exactly.

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Post #120 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:55 pm 
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I agree that it would be cool if we could make the game more interactive somehow, although I'm not sure how, exactly. I like the reviews-for-points idea, something to make people take more interest in particular games. Maybe somehow bidding points on specific matches?

I also agree with hyperpape, many matches had both pros "owned" by several players. Maybe just lowering the points each player can use could fix that, not sure exactly.
Lowering the points might work, but it might just keep the overlap as everyone buys Lee Sedol.

I'm imagining a system where the price of a pro somehow depends on the number of people who've chosen him. So maybe each pick increases the price by 1 or 10% (whichever is larger). But I'm not sure something like that is really feasible. It 1) requires a lot of bookkeeping, and 2) requires that people pick slowly over a long period of time, so that we can alternate instead of giving some people the advantage of making all their picks first.

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