Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:53 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . O | $$ | . O . O . O O O . . . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . C . X . X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . 4 X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X . . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Mmmm, that makes sense ... stil, this isn't getting any more straightforward...

EDIT: Made my other move, sorry! I think this is the only way I can not die pretty much everywhere

christian freeling · Post by **christian freeling** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:05 pm

MarkSteere wrote:I think square Oust may be more interesting than hex Oust in some ways, difficult to describe. I played a little square Oust, then played a whole lot of hex Oust, and now coming back to the square version, I'm seeing the differences more clearly. The way sente sometimes swings back and forth here is different from what happens in the hex version. The square version may in fact be more complex, as I think Christian suggested.

I don't know if one could call it more complex, "more interesting in ways difficult to describe" actually describes it quite accurately. In fact, barring games specifically suited for the hexgrid, Y, Hex and the like, I'm more inclined to square grid implementations in general.

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:05 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . O | $$ | . O . O . O O O . . . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X . . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . O | $$ | . O . O . O O O . . 5 | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X . . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg wrote:I think this is the only way I can not die pretty much everywhere

That was probably your best move.

Now here, if L9 were snugged in a little better with its friendly neighbors, you could go to town on G11.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:54 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . 6 O | $$ | . O . O . O O O . . . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | 6 . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X . . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:10 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . 6 O | $$ | . O . O . O O O . . . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | C . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X 7 . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . C C | $$ | . O . O . O O O . 7 . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X 7 . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . 7 | $$ | . O . O . O O O . 7 . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X 7 . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:27 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . 7 | $$ | . O . O . O O O . 7 . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | 8 . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X 7 . X 3 . O . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:03 am

Yeah, I resign, I'm in a bind, and your big groups are already overtaking mine ... you can just force me to steadily sacrifice what I have left!

Many thanks again for the game, and congrats

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:28 am

I completely understand. I've resigned many times in similar circumstances.

But... I was hoping to demonstrate White gaining sente. Why don't we change colors, Graham, with you playing Black and me playing White? If you're agreeable to that, it's your turn, as Black.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:14 am

Ok, let's see what happens

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . 7 | $$ | . O . O . O O O . 7 . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . C C . . . O O . . X | $$ | . 9 . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X 7 9 X 3 9 C . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . 7 | $$ | . O . O . O O O . 7 . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . . 9 . . . O O . . X | $$ | . 9 . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X 7 9 X 3 9 . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:56 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm41 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X . . O . | $$ | . . . O O . 0 . O . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . . . 7 | $$ | . O . O . O O O . 7 . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X 5 X | $$ | O . . . . O 4 . . 1 . | $$ | . . 9 . . . O O . . X | $$ | . 9 . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X 7 9 X 3 9 . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Hmmmm, White's in a bit of pinch at this point...

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:41 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X 1 1 C . | $$ | . . . O O . C 1 C . . | $$ | . O . . . . . . 1 . X | $$ | . O . O . O O O . X . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X X X | $$ | O . . . . O O . . X . | $$ | . . X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Yeah, very much why I was wanting to resign

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:47 am

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topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:59 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X 1 1 3 C | $$ | . . . O O . . 1 . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . 3 1 . X | $$ | . O . O . C 3 C . X . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X X X | $$ | O . . . . O O . . X . | $$ | . . X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:05 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X 1 1 3 . | $$ | . . . O O . . 1 . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . 3 1 . X | $$ | . O . O . 4 3 . . X . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X X X | $$ | O . . . . O O . . X . | $$ | . . X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:20 am

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