A little vignette on thickness

[RobertJasiek]

Early during the game, there is a close relation though between value of a position, average move value and value of an excess stone. So close that it can be confusing.

I am not sure though that you really mean "value of a position". Don't you rather mean "value of the situation" (taking into account that White has the next turn)? Otherwise I'd add half the average move value (7 points) to your presumed guess of 18 points!

[Bill Spight]

Early during the game, there is a close relation though between value of a position, average move value and value of an excess stone. So close that it can be confusing.

I am not sure though that you really mean "value of a position". Don't you rather mean "value of the situation" (taking into account that White has the next turn)? Otherwise I'd add half the average move value (7 points) to your presumed guess of 18 points!

Taking into account who has the move (White), I'd guess 11 points. Taking into account komi of 6.5 or 7.5, I'd guess 4 points.

[RobertJasiek]

Taking into account who has the move (White), I'd guess 11 points.

18 - 11 = 7, so much I understand. But I don't get it why 11, when I think 18. Can you please explain it?

[Bill Spight]

Taking into account who has the move (White), I'd guess 11 points.

18 - 11 = 7, so much I understand. But I don't get it why 11, when I think 18. Can you please explain it?

This early in the game, I think that having the move is still worth around 7 points. It is White's move, so we subtract 7 from 18.

[RobertJasiek]

Ok, now understand, I think... Thank you for trying it with your utterly clear explanation!