Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:48 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm81 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . O | $$ | . . . . . 1 . . . 2 X | $$ | . X . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . X X . . . . . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg wrote:I have a cunning plan!

Me too

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:53 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm81 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . O | $$ | . . . 5 . 1 . . . 2 X | $$ | . X . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . X X . . . . . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:01 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm81 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . . 6 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . O | $$ | . . . 5 . 1 . . . 2 X | $$ | . X . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . X X . . . . . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:01 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm81 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . 7 . . 6 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . O | $$ | . . . 5 . 1 . . . 2 X | $$ | . X . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . X X . . . . . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:05 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm81 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . 7 8 . 6 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 3 . . . O | $$ | . . . 5 . 1 . . . 2 X | $$ | . X . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . X X . . . . . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Juggling dragons.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:17 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm81 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . 7 C . 6 . . . 9 . . | $$ | . 9 . . . . 3 . . . O | $$ | . . . 5 . 1 . . . 2 X | $$ | . X . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . X X . . . . . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:24 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm81 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . 7 . . 6 . . . 9 . . | $$ | . 9 . . . . 3 . . . O | $$ | . . . 5 . 1 . . . 2 X | $$ | . X . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . X X . . . 0 . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Theoretically, no game has a larger tree than Go. Practically speaking though, considering only the portion of the tree likely to be used, Oust has a larger "practical" tree. If the boards were scaled so the two games played out with about the same number of moves, either to completion or to a reasonable resign point, there'd be more possibilities in Oust.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:37 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . X . . . O | $$ | . . . X . X . . . O X | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O . O | $$ | . X X . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:40 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . X . . . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O X | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O . O | $$ | . X X . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

If the boards for Go and Oust were the same size, say 11x11, the distance between the practical trees of Go and Oust would be even larger (than if the board sizes were adjusted for equal game length), since capturing takes place to a much larger extent in Oust.

You wouldn't want to play Oust on a 19x19. It could take months at this rate.

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:27 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . 3 . X . . . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O X | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O . O | $$ | . X X . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:39 pm

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O . . . X . . | $$ | . X . . 3 . X . . . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O C | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . X X . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O 4 . . X . . | $$ | . X . . C . X . . . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . X X . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O 4 4 . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . C . . . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . X X . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O 4 4 . X 4 . | $$ | . X . . . . . . . . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . X X . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

topazg · Post by **topazg** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:44 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O 4 4 . X C . | $$ | . X . . . . . . 5 . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . X X . . 5 O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . . . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:57 am

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O 4 4 . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . 5 . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . X . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . X X . . C O . O O . | $$ | X . X X . 6 . . . O O | $$ | . X X . . O O O O O O | $$ | . X X . . . O O . O . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . O O | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O 4 4 . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . 5 . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . C . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . C C . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . C C 6 6 . . . O O | $$ | . C C . . O O O O O O | $$ | . C C . . . O O . O . | $$ | . C . . C . . O . O O | $$ | C C C C C C . . O O . | $$ | . C C . C . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm91 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . X . . O 4 4 . X . . | $$ | . X . . . . . . 5 . O | $$ | 2 . . X . X . . . O . | $$ | . . . . 1 . . . O 4 O | $$ | . . . . . . O . O O . | $$ | X . . . 6 6 . . . O O | $$ | . . . . . O O O O O O | $$ | . . . . . . O O . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . O . O O | $$ | . . . . . . . . O O . | $$ | 6 . . . . . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Normally I'd offer you a revert, Graham, but your move provides an excellent demonstration of the type of gut wrenching, game ending blunder that can occur in Oust.

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:30 pm

Review of certain moves, with Topazg playing White

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . 1 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . 4 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 4 2 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

No, don't kill everything.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm11 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . 4 . . 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . 4 . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . | $$ | . . . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 . . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

No, because 16 enables Black to do the following, forcing White to kill. One of the central tactics is forcing your opponent to kill. Don't be killing willy nilly when you don't even have to.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm11 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . 4 . . 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . 4 . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . | $$ | . . . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . 7 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 . . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . 2 . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

White's first good move. I was shocked.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . 4 | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . 3 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

24 should have been:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . 4 . | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . 3 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

or the following, since knight move connections are weak. You can't join them and you can't squeeze another stone in between them.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . 3 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . 4 | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . 6 O . | $$ | . 3 1 . 7 . . . . . 8 | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Save 28 for later. White could move there any time. Better would have been A10 or B11, preventing Black from taking up two of White's spaces like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | 9 . . O . . X . . 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . 4 | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . 6 O . | $$ | . 3 1 . 7 . . . . . 8 | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Same game, but now Topazg is playing Black instead of White

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X 1 1 3 C | $$ | . . . O O . . 1 . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . 3 1 . X | $$ | . O . O . C 3 C . X . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X X X | $$ | O . . . . O O . . X . | $$ | . . X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Terrible move when Black could have done the following, where White now has the option of killing and then using up a free move, or enabling Black to form a black 6 using 52.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X 1 1 . 2 | $$ | . . . O O . . 1 . 3 . | $$ | . O . . . . . . 1 . X | $$ | . O . O . O O O . X . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X X X | $$ | O . . . . O O . . X . | $$ | . . X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm71 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | X X X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X . X | $$ | . X . X X X X . . X . | $$ | O . X . X . . X . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . X X X | $$ | . X X . 1 O O . . X . | $$ | . X X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . O . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Terrible move. Black could have won the game with:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm71 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | X X X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X . X | $$ | . X . X X X X . . X . | $$ | C 1 X . X . . X . X . | $$ | 1 . X X . . . . X X X | $$ | . X X . . O O . . X . | $$ | . X X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . O . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

That should give you a pretty good idea for now. Gotta get back to my tenor sax.

MarkSteere · Post by **MarkSteere** » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:54 pm

Review of certain moves, with Topazg playing White

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$c Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . 1 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . 4 . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . 4 2 . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

No, don't kill everything.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm11 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . 4 . . 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . 4 . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . | $$ | . . . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 . . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

No, because 16 enables Black to do the following, forcing White to kill. One of the central tactics is forcing your opponent to kill. Don't be killing willy nilly when you don't even have to.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm11 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . 4 . . 5 . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . 4 . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . 2 . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . 1 . | $$ | . . . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . 7 . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . 6 . . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . O . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . . 2 . . . O . . O . | $$ | . . 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

White's first good move. I was shocked.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . 4 | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . 3 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

24 should have been:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . 4 . | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . 3 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

or the following, since knight move connections are weak. You can't join them and you can't squeeze another stone in between them.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . 4 | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . . | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . . O . | $$ | . 3 1 . . . . . . . . | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | . . . O . . X . . 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . 4 | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . 6 O . | $$ | . 3 1 . 7 . . . . . 8 | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Save 28 for later. White could move there any time. Better would have been A10 or B11, preventing Black from taking up two of White's spaces like this:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm21 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | 9 . . O . . X . . 6 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . O . . X . . . . . 4 | $$ | . O . . . . O . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O O . . . O O . . X | $$ | . . . . X . . . . . . | $$ | 3 . . . . . O . 6 O . | $$ | . 3 1 . 7 . . . . . 8 | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Same game, but now Topazg is playing Black instead of White

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X 1 1 3 C | $$ | . . . O O . . 1 . . . | $$ | . O . . . . . 3 1 . X | $$ | . O . O . C 3 C . X . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X X X | $$ | O . . . . O O . . X . | $$ | . . X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Terrible move when Black could have done the following, where White now has the option of killing and then using up a free move, or enabling Black to form a black 6 using 52.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm51 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . O . . X 1 1 . 2 | $$ | . . . O O . . 1 . 3 . | $$ | . O . . . . . . 1 . X | $$ | . O . O . O O O . X . | $$ | O . O . . . . . . X . | $$ | . O . O O . . . X X X | $$ | O . . . . O O . . X . | $$ | . . X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . . . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O . . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm71 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | X X X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X . X | $$ | . X . X X X X . . X . | $$ | O . X . X . . X . X . | $$ | . . X X . . . . X X X | $$ | . X X . 1 O O . . X . | $$ | . X X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . O . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Terrible move. Black could have won the game with:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm71 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | X X X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X . X | $$ | . X . X X X X . . X . | $$ | C 1 X . X . . X . X . | $$ | 1 . X X . . . . X X X | $$ | . X X . . O O . . X . | $$ | . X X . . . O O . . X | $$ | . X . . X . . O . . . | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm71 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | X X X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X . X | $$ | . X . X X X X . . 5 . | $$ | . 7 X . X . . X . . 3 | $$ | 7 . X X . . . . . 2 . | $$ | . X X . . O O 2 2 8 4 | $$ | . X X . . . O O . 6 . | $$ | . X . . X . . O 9 . 8 | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

Terrible move (79). Gave White barely enough mass to turn the game around. Should have been:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$cm71 Oust - Mark Steere vs Topazg $$ ----------------------- $$ | X . . . . . X X X X . | $$ | X X X X X . . X . . . | $$ | . . . X . . X X X . X | $$ | . X . X X X X . . 5 . | $$ | . 7 X . X . . X . . 3 | $$ | 7 . X X . . . . . 2 . | $$ | . X X . . O O 2 2 8 4 | $$ | . X X . . . O O . 6 . | $$ | . X . . X . . O . 9 8 | $$ | X X X X X X . . O O . | $$ | . X X . X . . O O . O | $$ -----------------------[/go]

That should give you a pretty good idea for now. Gotta get back to my tenor sax.

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