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by EdLee Wed May 16, 2012 7:50 pm
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by LexC Thu May 17, 2012 4:25 am
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by EdLee Thu May 17, 2012 4:44 am
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Variation. Also playable, IMO, but decided to keep things simple.
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by LexC Thu May 17, 2012 5:48 am
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by EdLee Thu May 17, 2012 7:55 am
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First feeling.
Variations:
If B gets something like
first, the right side becomes much more difficult to handle:
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One continuation:
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at tengen), I'm trying to make
become misplaced or inefficient --
not the only objective, but keeping an eye on it -- so far,
is still OK.
Also,
is far away from
so
is not hurt so much. And I'm still keeping (a) open.
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by LexC Thu May 17, 2012 8:36 am
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:w10: seems a little bit too early
I studied this both variation which looks good for me so I played
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by EdLee Thu May 17, 2012 9:04 am
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by LexC Thu May 17, 2012 10:50 am
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by EdLee Thu May 17, 2012 7:09 pm
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by EdLee Thu May 17, 2012 8:46 pm
Considering this result -- first impression is the tengen stone
feels a bit too close to the thick
wall --
but it's still OK:
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by jts Thu May 17, 2012 11:19 pm
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by SoDesuNe Thu May 17, 2012 11:48 pm
I second that. If EdLees diagramme comes to life, I think Black is favourable. Although, I'm not sure about
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by Uberdude Fri May 18, 2012 1:24 am
Setting aside whether invading was even a good idea (probably not, but Cho Chikun might do it), white really ought to have wedged instead of extended as below. You need to check two ladders to do this, but wedging is so much better than extend if black has to atari from the outside as it gives him two cuts, black is less thick, and white lives more comfortably.
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The two ladders:
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a though to give himself a decent trade. Ponnuki is nice for white to make tengen ineffective, but k3 does get hurt a lot.
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by Loons Fri May 18, 2012 1:32 am
@Ed
To address the right side, why invade and not
?
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first, the right side becomes much more difficult to handle:
is far away from 
so 
feels a bit too close to the thick 
wall --
.