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Re: 25th LG cup

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The quarterfinals and semifinals will be in November.
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Re: 25th LG cup

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manastin wrote:Do you have a schedule for the next games of LG cup?
xiayun wrote:The quarterfinals and semifinals will be in November.
Thanks. All I could find was what looks like the official page, but doesn't show anything on schedule after Mid-January. Which doesn't suprise me much, mind you.

http://baduk.lg.co.kr/eng/info.asp

I haven't been able to find it in the untranslated page, either.

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Re: 25th LG cup

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Okay... I'm trying to understand move 54...



That's the variant suggested in Yeonwoo Cho's video. And I like that it links the SW and NW groups while also facing the centre, I like that a lot. What I don't understand is why black doesn't push North for longer. White would still link with the northern wall, but it wouldn't get those 20-ish points it's getting right now.

Which means I'm missing something, likely something obvious. What?

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In the variation, if :b57: is at C11, then :w58: at B8, so White makes many points in the corner, Black doesn't have a base and White can attack severely thanks to the wall C16. Black will not die but while White attacks, White will put many stones and control the center.
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57 at c11 is far from a terrible move, indeed the top 3 moves to consider in that position are b8 hane, c11 extend and c10 c12 jump.
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@jlt: Sure. But you're preventing White from getting... 5 points? If you manage to get those yourself, it's a 10 point difference, locally, in exchange for a center facing wall, pretty low (with holes, granted), and a pretty nice space between the 12th and 16th lines.

@Uberdude: c10 jump... do you mean c12?

As I see it, W54@D9 gets it the SW corner, a connection with the Northern wall, and center influence. Black can pick some details (reduce towards North or South? defects on the wall?), but that much's a given.

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As Uberdude said, :b57: at C11 is almost equally good, for us amateurs it doesn't make a difference.

In the variation showed by Yeonwoo, Black takes a few points from White, and White gets a wall facing the center.

If :b57: at C11, then White keeps a larger corner and
* either Black takes a few points from White around B12 and White gets a wall facing the center
* or Black gets a weak group that White can attack for profit.

Difficult for us to judge which alternative is best.
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Re: 25th LG cup

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The quarterfinal is happening today:

Ke Jie vs. Weon Seongjin
Park Junghwan vs. Yang Dingxin
Shin Minjun vs. Lee Taehyun
Byun Sangil vs.Kang Dongyun
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Results:

Ke Jie vs. Weon Seongjin
Park Junghwan vs. Yang Dingxin
Shin Minjun vs. Lee Taehyun
Byun Sangil vs.Kang Dongyun

Semifinal (11/11):
Shin Minjun vs. Park Junghwan
Ke Jie vs. Byun Sangil
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Re: 25th LG cup

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Semifinal results:

Ke Jie beat Byun Sangil
Shin Minjun beat Park Junghwan

Final (best of 3):

Ke Jie vs. Shin Minjun

The final will be in Feb.
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Re: 25th LG cup

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The final will start on 02/01.
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Re: 25th LG cup

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That's February 1st?
A good system naturally covers all corner cases without further effort.
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Re: 25th LG cup

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Final 1st game;
Ke Jie defeated Shin MinJoon.

2nd game:2/3
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Final 2nd game;
Shin MinJoon defeated Ke Jie.

3rd game:2/4
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Re: 25th LG cup

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Final 3rd game;
Shin MinJoon defeated Ke Jie.

Shin MinJoon is 25th LG cup Champion.
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