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by EdLee Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:24 am
If
at
, it's probably too thin, as B has to take care of
both the
group and the
stones:
$$B
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by EdLee Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:33 am
Going back a few moves, if Loons fixed his shape with
at
-- instead of his cap at (a) --
my follow-up was something like
.
$$B
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by EdLee Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:00 am
One question for post-game review is to compare the following (if
at
)...
$$W
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(instead of the large knight's
(a) in the game):
$$B
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by EdLee Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:17 pm
$$Wm62 Prisoners: :w1:
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by EdLee Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:22 pm
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by Loons Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:46 pm
An exchange! How exciting. However, this cannot be the extent of Ed's plan- P9 and Q8 were not gainful moves this way. I think.
Some aji:
Note, I am demonstrating aji. To play this like this is very much just setting the world on fire.
$$Bcm63 Prisoners: :w1:
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm63 Prisoners: :w1: 'X' is quite Ed's sente, and white's potential in the middle grows as I throw stones away.
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by Loons Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:24 am
$$Bcm63 Prisoners: :w1:
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aims to take sente by falling back a little bit and treating H14 lightly to appease white's thickness. If I played E13, I would be obliged to take better thickness, in gote (*by my reading).
I'm afraid we're entering the weakest part of my game :/
Top is devouring my stones in pairs!
Losing or winning, this is a pretty cool situation on top.
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by EdLee Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:18 am
Interesting. Not sure what to make of
just yet. Looks like it's going to be a long yose... perhaps?
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by EdLee Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:00 am
First feelings. The usual suspects. Have to think about this.
$$W
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by Loons Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:43 am
$$Bcm63 Prisoners: :w1:
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As white, my first thought is to play 'a'. My second was 'b'. X-Y-Z tries to convince black he really doesn't want sente (which I do). Just Z may be more elegant than that sequence.
I would have probably just played 'a' to well-finish my big capture.
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by jts Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:24 pm
@loons:
You strongly imply that you expect W to reply locally to
to prevent
something , but you don't quite spell it out. Mind throwing us a diagram?
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by Loons Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:48 pm
@jts
Ha ha, I thought it would be fun for people to put it together a little themselves. Look carefully at my 'aji' sequence post and then at my move. Then, if you find there's nothing doing and black clearly misread, you have my permission to giggle quietly to yourself until after the game. Perhaps you can post what I think I'm threatening, or possibly why white is safe and where black has probably erred for anyone else still wondering.
I guess my mention of not playing E13 instead may be pointlessly also cryptic. Given I will give up H14, I would prefer to have a two space jump relationship there to a large knight's move. Also consider the two space jump draws my lines in the sand just a little further from white's monstrous top (with respect to developing my own centre-right later).
Just so you can double-check-
$$Bcm65 Prisoners: :w1: -- :w64: tenuki (possible). :w68: is a mistake.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code [go]$$Bcm65 Prisoners: :w1: -- :w64: tenuki (possible). :w68: is a mistake.X for Y shouldn't matter a whole lot.
This is why I suggested white might try breaking this sequence with eg. 'a' aiming for sente.
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by EdLee Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:14 pm
Pondering this:
$$W :w11: at (a), :b12: at (b)
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by EdLee Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:22 pm
$$Wm64 Prisoners: :w1:
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by EdLee Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:23 pm
at 
, it's probably too thin, as B has to take care of
group and the 
stones:
at 
.
at 
)...
(instead of the large knight's 
(a) in the game):
aims to take sente by falling back a little bit and treating H14 lightly to appease white's thickness. If I played E13, I would be obliged to take better thickness, in gote (*by my reading).
