127. ez4u vs topazg

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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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@observers:
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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | e X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . f . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X g . |
$$ | . . . . . x . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . x . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . c . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . O . b . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X . O X . X X . . |
$$ | d . . . . . O . . a . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


With the shape above, 'b' is usually a good move to ensure connection between the two groups. So just glancing at the shape, 'b' seems like the correct move. But in this case, why not simply capture the stone?

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[go]$$Bcm1 Prisoners:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | e X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . f . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X g . |
$$ | . . . . . x . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . x . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . c . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O . . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O 5 2 4 . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . O 1 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X . O X . X X . . |
$$ | d . . . . . O . . a . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


If P6 were already filled, maybe it'd be a different story, but...
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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Kirby wrote:@topazg:
How has playing ez4u compared to your initial expectations? In retrospect, did he play any moves that you found particularly surprising?


He has the wonderful dan ability to take leads without doing anything spectacular :P

To be honest, his play on the right side was inspiring, but apart from that, he's just done lots of solid, good, sensible moves. I wish I could make the board look so promising doing that :D
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O 4 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

My targets are unchanged.
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . 5 . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O 4 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I just have to play here, or I die I think. Now, what on Earth do I do with those 3 sad stones :(
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . 6 X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Here we go! I have no real thoughts about this fight yet. It depends too much on how topazg reacts.
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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . 7 . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


No real deep thought into this one, other than "wheeee, here we go again!"
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X 8 O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

At the moment I am waiting to react in whatever direction is appropriate. Black has to give something up in this fight and it is not clear what he will be able to take in return. There are various weaknesses in White's position, as there are in Black's.
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(For beginners, mostly.) Note the local broken shape for B and how it may affect this fight.
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$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . @ B O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , B @ O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ -----------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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On further analysis, I appear to be screwed. I'd really missed Dave's extension's implications:

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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . 6 . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O 4 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . 5 . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . , . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . , X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X , O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I'd originally intended this :b15:, but :w16: appears to kill my big dragon. I was doing a fair amount of reading on White playing it as :w14:, but I figured this was enough:

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[go]$$Bcm115 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . 8 5 . 9 O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O 7 6 W . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . 1 3 . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O 2 4 . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . . . . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X . O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


However, because my :b15: and :b17: in this diagram are necessary, that means that his :w14: simply works when he extends where he did, and I must defend against it, and can only defend from one direction.

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[go]$$Bcm119 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . 9 . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . 7 8 O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . 3 1 X 5 6 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . 4 2 O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X O O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


This is basically my only chance, but one of us is going to die, and the odds are surprisingly high that it's me. If it is, I'll resign, if it's him, he will, so we may as well play through to the point I can actually read the game :)
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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This phrase cracks me up:

topazg wrote:On further analysis, I appear to be screwed.
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I've only just noticed you've moved - sorry about that!

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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . 9 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X O O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


"Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die."

Actually, I'm not sure another push is sente, but that's ok, as the three stones are safe anyway:

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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . 3 . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X 4 X 0 . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X 5 6 8 9 . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . 7 X X 1 2 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . W O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X O O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . 9 . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O 4 1 5 X . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X O 6 O 2 3 O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X X O O X 7 O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . 8 X X X X O O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . O O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X O O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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To me, topazg's diagrams look good for B. Am I missing something? Is he missing something?
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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Some further thoughts:

Can he resist my peep like this?

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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . 3 . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . 4 . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . X X 1 2 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . W O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X O O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Should I play this first, regardless of whether he can or not?

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[go]$$Bcm121 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , 4 . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O 3 . . 5 . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . X X 1 2 O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . W O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X O O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Sadly, this is deep, and complex, and my brain hurts. Will see later I guess :)
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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jts wrote:
To me, topazg's diagrams look good for B. Am I missing something? Is he missing something?

I think it's perhaps overly optimistic, as kind of a 'best case scenario' kind of thing. More likely, Dave will resist one or both peeps, and the situation will escalate. I think Topazg couldn't show every possible resistance, so he showed the less complicated 'main line'.


edit: Topazg's added explanation basically summarizes what I posted above. =D
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Re: 127. ez4u vs topazg

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[go]$$Bcm111 Prisoners: :b2: :w1:
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . X . . X X . . . X . X O O . O O O . |
$$ | . O X X O . X . . . . . X O . X O X . |
$$ | . O O O O . O O . , X . X O . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . . X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . X . X O . . X . X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . X . . O O O . . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . O O X . |
$$ | . . X , O X X . . , . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | . O O O X . X X O O . . . . . O X . . |
$$ | O . O X X X O O X . X . . . O X X . . |
$$ | . O X . X . O X X . . . . . O . . . . |
$$ | . X X . . O . O . . . 9 X . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . 0 O X O O X O . . |
$$ | . . O O . . . . O , X O O X . X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . O . . . . . . X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

In one sense :b19: seemed natural. However, I think that White has gained a lot of territory by capturing the G6 stone (in exchange for the F9 stone) and now gripping the L4 stone. In addition, my N19 stones are now connected along the bottom. The fight in the center looks tricky for both sides but White has forcing plays against the left center group around J12, so I am feeling more confident here. If possible, I think Black should have waited to settle the question of pulling out the N6 stones or the stone on L4.
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