86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoner White:3 Black:2
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$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | 8 X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

i love ko
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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoner White:4 Black:2
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . . . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X 9 X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm71 Prisoner White:4 Black:2
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . 0 . . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
My other choice was to just sanrensei at the top, which he would obviously ignore. He may very well ignore this too, in which case I'll cut and try to control the flow of the game. At the same time, I wonder if I should have just taken the big move.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:2
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X 1 . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
i was going to ignore this..but dont need to ignore.
i have more ko threats and he is playing a ko therat that only help me.
i will gain more points before i finish this ko fight.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O 2 O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Hmm, sort of surprised he responded. It looks like I'll win the ko...
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:2
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 6 7 . X X X O O 3 0 9 . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . a . . X X X 4 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X 1 . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
And then I still have the final ko threat at a to cut him off, and I'll ignore any threat he plays after that. He can get one more threat this way:
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:2
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X b X a . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 6 7 . X X X O O 3 9 0 . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X 4 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X 1 . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
But after I capture here I'm more than happy to just get some free moves. Lets see what happens.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
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$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

my goal is to break him on this ko fight.
i think this is legit ko threat.
if he refuse to answer then i earn more points and ko fight will be even bigger than before which i dont mind.

one lesson sdk can learn from this game is to ko fight.
i will not use any ko threats that will make me lose points. (example below: point "a")
i dont think i will play that ko threat unless i really need ko threat.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O a . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


my expectation: if he choose to ignore i will still live and status of the corner is still ko.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 X 7 . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . 5 3 . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 4 X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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more comment:
after closer look at this i think i was wrong.
he might play 88 and let me have 2 stone. i dont like it..
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . 6 X 7 . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . 5 3 . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . X O O 8 . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 4 X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]



below will be the optimal path for both black and white.
he will use 'a' as a ko threat but i will refuse it.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
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$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X a . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . . 3 . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | 6 5 X O O 8 . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 4 X 9 X 7 . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
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$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . 4 O . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ugh, even after I ignore one of his threats it becomes another ko where I take first, meaning I have to ignore two threats
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:4 Black:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | 3 9 O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . 8 X O O 4 . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 2 X 7 . 5 6 . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I'm not quite sure how to think of this yet. My bad for somehow not consciously thinking about this earlier
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:5 Black:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X 5 X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:5 Black:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . 6 . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O . . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O . O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X O X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Ok, on second read I actually don't need to ignore another ko threat, thank god.
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[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:5 Black:3
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X . . . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X . 8 . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | 7 O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | 5 6 O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . . 2 O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 4 X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
I win the capturing race. And this is a big pretty ko too. And it really does seem like I have one more threat than white...
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Wcm81 Prisoner White:5 Black:4
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . X 7 6 . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O 9 . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | O O 8 O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | . X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


these ko threats i can ignore.. but i think i can fight without giving him anything.
also ko threats he is using is tempting because of the reason it is a bad ko threats on black..
now i have a beautiful hanne shape on black group.

lesson for SDKs:
if you wanna get stronger learn how to ko fight. how?
1. most important UNDERSTNAD THE BURDON ON EACH PLAYERS
2. learn how to count the ko threats and correctly sequence them.
3. try not to play ko threats that hurts you.


below is the sequence i am hoping for.
i think i am pushing the limit also.. but this is how i play handycapped game.
i hope i can get some unhidden feedback from observers.
just say how you are enjoying my comments and game or just say hi..
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[go]$$Bcm90 Prisoner White:5 Black:6
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . O . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . 5 , . . . O . , O O X X . X . . . |
$$ | . . 3 4 . X O B . X X X O O . . . . . |
$$ | . . X 2 . X O . . . . X X X . X O . . |
$$ | . X O O . X . O . . . . . O O O X . . |
$$ | . X X O . . X O . . . X . . . X O . . |
$$ | . O O O X X X O . . . . . O . . O . . |
$$ | . . O X X O O . O , . X . . O X . O . |
$$ | X X O X . . . . . . . . . O O O X O . |
$$ | . 6 X O O . . . . . . . O X O X . X . |
$$ | 1 X . X . . . . . . . . . . X . X . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Per request, I'm saying how I'm enjoying the game and the players' comments very much :)
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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also enjoying! :)
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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To Magicwand

think the analysis you have given in this game is among the best you've done. I'm really enjoying the ko discussion.
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Re: 86: Magicwand (4D) Vs. Jedo (2K)

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Thanks to both of you guys for providing an interesting game. Keep it up!
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