90: CSamurai (5k) vs Chew (3k)

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:34 am

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O 5 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O 2 3 . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O 1 4 . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Gah, this doesn't work. This game can be frustrating.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . 0 O 7 X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 6 8 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 . . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . 3 O O . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O 6 X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 4 8 9 . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 7 . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . 3 O O . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, I can't look at this right now. I'm frustrated from other stuff, and if I keep failing to read this out, I'm going to resign out of frustration and apologize for wasting ya'all's time. Going to try to come back to this later, with a fresh brain. Maybe I can see SOMETHING.

Website · Post by **Chew Terr** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:43 pm

I resign. Thank you very much for the game. Sorry I was getting disheartened towards the end, I've had a lot of stress from work lately, and haven't been able to play a game of go without getting really frustrated at myself. Sorry I couldn't give you a better game.

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . 3 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . 2 . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O 4 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Doesn't work, just not enough liberties. Let's try another variation, from where the first diagram left off.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . 2 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O O 3 . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X 1 . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This just shuts me down.

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm51 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . 0 . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O O X X 4 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . 5 6 | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O 2 O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O 1 . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X C 3 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Okay, this variation works. What if MHO doesn't respond with the atari at 61?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O O X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O X . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . O . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

Yeah, this doesn't work. If I just sacrifice everything and play for influence, how far behind am I?

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I just did a VERY generous count, and no matter what I see, it still puts me 5-10 behind. As this is as optimistic as I can see possible, I'm calling it. I resign.

Okay, I'll read one more variation. If I find something amazing, I'll wait on resigning.

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Click Here To Show Diagram Code: [go]$$Bcm61 Prisoner Count: B-0 W-0.5 $$ --------------------------------------- $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O . . X . . X . . . . O . O . . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . , . . . . . , O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O . . | $$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . O X X X . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X O O O 1 . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . X X O . . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . X O O . . . | $$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . X X O . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . | $$ | . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . O X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . O X X . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . | $$ | . . O X . . . X . . X . . X . X X . . | $$ | . O O X . . . . . , . . . . . , . . . | $$ | . X X O X X . O . . O . . O . X . . . | $$ | . O . O O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

This kills me any way you slice it.

CSamurai · Post by **CSamurai** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:17 pm

I want to thank you for an amazingly fun game, and post my regrets that it ended so early. Really, the opening is all I am any good at, and reading EdLee's comments, I've discovered I made more errors than I thought in the lower left. I'm amazed it worked out as well as it did, really.

MagicWand is likely right, the lower center would probably have been a better 37.

I have to say, I didn't see Topazg's double hane tesuji in my reading at all, I'll have to work on that one. The lines he posted are quite good, and I don't know how I would have dealt with the second hane I had plans for it after hitting the head of the two stones, but I don't recall what they were, since I viewed it as an unpleasant option for white. I think I might have misread the severity of the cut after the second hane.

Thank you again, Chew, for a game that was very entertaining and made me think quite a bit.

Dusk Eagle · Post by **Dusk Eagle** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:38 pm

Good game you two!

EdLee · Post by **EdLee** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:02 am

Thanks for sharing this game.

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90: CSamurai (5k) vs Chew (3k)

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