Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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:lol:

I'm definitely joining this thread!
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

Post by WindCaliber »

Just to clarify, I meant the threads becoming obsolete, not the players :scratch:
(Note "that" vs "who")

E.g., the title of the threads "The reign of Ke Jie" and "Park Junghwan is Best" don't really make a whole lot of sense anymore. This is just to minimize the number of dead threads.
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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WindCaliber wrote:Just to clarify, I meant the threads becoming obsolete, not the players :scratch:
(Note "that" vs "who")


Right. I did not mean to misrepresent you.
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

Post by topazg »

I am constantly feeling like an obsolete player, can I join this club?
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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Gu Zihao is one of the many super-strong young Chinese players to emerge in recent years, he won the Samsung cup last year and he's now #5 on goratings. He just won the 14th Weifufangkai cup (gotoeveryone calls this the Qiwang but I think it's a successor event), beating Liao Yuanhe in the final (pretty much all the big name Chinese 9ds except Ke Jie participated and got knocked out). In the semi-final Xu Jiayang tried to kill his 3-3 invasion with that 2nd line broken shape killing move loved by internet overplayers but not so often seen in pro games, and Gu found enough aji to survive here too. Maybe Gu will go onto greater things and get his own thread, but for now I'll hijack this one!
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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Interesting question from Gu Zihao (white) vs Shi Yue, white to play.

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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

Post by Uberdude »

gamesorry, but then black o5 kills.
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

Post by Knotwilg »

o5 is sente and makes miai at the bottom.
Black can Atari with an empty triangle of sorts but then white comes out with good shape. Black then connects to separate the two white stones but there is aji
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

Post by Knotwilg »

Better idea:


LZ's solution:

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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

Post by gamesorry »

Uberdude wrote:gamesorry, but then black o5 kills.


Oops, didn't realize there was L&D problem for white's group ..
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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Lian Xiao 9p has been one of the top Chinese players (goratings #7) for a few years now and ended Chen Yaoye's many years holding the Tianyuan title. This year rising star Fan Yunruo (#12) is challenging him for the Tianyuan and won the first game. Lian needed to win the second game and did so today in spectacular style with lots of kiai and ko and trades.
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

Post by macelee »

We should have more (not less) threads to discuss these domestic events. These Tianyuan title games are extremely interesting ones. Game 3, which is still ongoing while I write this, is again a very exciting game - Lian Xiao is showing off his attacking skill in very difficult situation.
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Re: Thread for players who quickly become obsolete

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Lian Xiao managed to win the third game and thus defend his Tianyuan title. Difficult fighting, the yike bot had him far behind in middle game but he made the attacks work. I wonder what Fan's mistakes were, will investigate with Lizzie later.

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