What should Black do in this situation?

If you're new to the game and have questions, post them here.
Post Reply
User avatar
SuprunP
Dies in gote
Posts: 33
Joined: Mon May 14, 2012 3:28 am
GD Posts: 0
Has thanked: 55 times
Been thanked: 3 times

What should Black do in this situation?

Post by SuprunP »

What should Black do in the following situation?

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$c What should Black do in this situation?
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . , . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]


When I play F3 my PC responds with F4 and I'm slightly at a loss to where I should extend.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$c Where should Black extend?
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 2 X . . |
$$ | . . , . . 1 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]


If I play H3 White responds with F3 and I, for some reason, seem to be even worse off than in the previous situation.
Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$c Is this any good for Black?
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . X . . |
$$ | . . , . . 2 O 1 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]

Thanks.
Top
User avatar
emeraldemon
Gosei
Posts: 1744
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 1:33 pm
GD Posts: 0
KGS: greendemon
Tygem: greendemon
DGS: smaragdaemon
OGS: emeraldemon
Has thanked: 697 times
Been thanked: 287 times

Re: What should Black do in this situation?

Post by emeraldemon »

I asked Fuego, which is stronger than I am at 9x9 (computers tend to do well on small board sizes).

It recommended this play:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Black Play
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . , . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]


If white continues back to connect, black can be happy with a nice wall:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Black has done well
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 3 1 X . . |
$$ | . . , . 4 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]


Maybe because of this, its choice for white is to treat the stone lightly:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Black Play
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , 2 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . , . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]
Top
xed_over
Oza
Posts: 2264
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:51 am
Has thanked: 1179 times
Been thanked: 553 times

Re: What should Black do in this situation?

Post by xed_over »

I want to ignore, and tenuki @ C6

but I can't say if that's any better or worse.
Top
User avatar
cdybeijing
Lives in gote
Posts: 581
Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:27 am
Rank: IGS 2 dan
GD Posts: 0
Location: Shanghai, China
Has thanked: 96 times
Been thanked: 100 times
Contact:
Contact cdybeijing

Re: What should Black do in this situation?

Post by cdybeijing »

emeraldemon wrote:I asked Fuego, which is stronger than I am at 9x9 (computers tend to do well on small board sizes).

It recommended this play:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Black Play
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . , . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]


If white continues back to connect, black can be happy with a nice wall:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Black has done well
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , . . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . 5 , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O 3 1 X . . |
$$ | . . , . 4 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]


Maybe because of this, its choice for white is to treat the stone lightly:

Click Here To Show Diagram Code
[go]$$Bcm1 Black Play
$$ ---------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . , 2 . . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . , . . . . |
$$ | . . . O . 1 X . . |
$$ | . . , . . . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------[/go]


In the first and second diagram I think the exchange is acceptable to black only because it is a 9x9 board. On a full size board, white is doing much better, running ahead on the 4th line while black's extension is too close to his wall.
Top
User avatar
emeraldemon
Gosei
Posts: 1744
Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 1:33 pm
GD Posts: 0
KGS: greendemon
Tygem: greendemon
DGS: smaragdaemon
OGS: emeraldemon
Has thanked: 697 times
Been thanked: 287 times

Re: What should Black do in this situation?

Post by emeraldemon »

I suppose one danger of 9x9 games: you may get some bad instincts when playing moves that work well in 9x9, but not in 19x19.
Top
Post Reply

Return to “Beginners”