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Offline topazg
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again
Post #61 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:29 am 
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gaius wrote:
I, too, like black's play. In fact, I think the board almost looks like a 5-stone game now!


How do professionals stop this from happening. Even pro vs pro handi games seem to stay "around {x} stones", with {x} being the original number (at least, looking at Kageyama's they do).

There's an art there somewhere, because mine fall apart if my opponent plays solid/thick attacking Go with his stones
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Post #62 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:33 am 
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cyclops wrote:
Magicwand wrote:
"when you save drowning man they claim that you stole something from him."
moral of the story: when your opponent is about to drown push him down and make sure he is dead.


So you know your fate, Kirby.


actually i was the drowning man in this case not kirby. :)

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again
Post #63 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:23 am 
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for observers:
i just realized a mistakes on my last move.
i should've played as below.
i guess i was too happy that my opponent let me loose i didnt think more than few second on the move.
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[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . 9 X 0 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 7 8 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Kirby
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again
Post #64 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:35 am 
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Hmm, now I'm curious...

I feel a bit at a loss right now. I want to push ahead... But what about this cut, which makes me uneasy:

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[go]$$Bcm1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X 4 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 2 3 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Other moves in the local area also seem possible, but none feel as good as pulling ahead... I'm going to mull over this a bit more...

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Post #65 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:16 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Well, I can't think of a better move. Anything else locally seems like I will fall behind his stones...

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Offline Magicwand
 Post subject: Re: Magicwand vs. Kirby... Again
Post #66 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:36 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . . 1 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i didnt read toomuch on this but i have a feeling that he made a mistake.
i think that weakness on black will guarantee life on the white group.
as i said it is only a feeling but usually correct.

after some reading:
i am probing if he wants to play ko fight or peep.
below two diag will show you the difference if he decide to peep.
i will fight ko because i have good ko threat.
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[go]$$Wcm31
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 5 O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X 4 2 3 1 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


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[go]$$Wcm31
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 3 4 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X 6 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X 7 2 . 1 5 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


my mistake actually helped him make a bigger mistake.

lesson to be learn: when you are ahead you must play solid game.
kirby is giving me a chance to comeback from despirate situation.

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Post #67 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:25 am 
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[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . . 2 O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I guess he'll play here:
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[go]$$Wcm21
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O . . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . O X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . W X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I think it's a fair result for black. I really couldn't get myself to play anything other than my last move, because I didn't want to fall behind his stones.

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Offline Magicwand
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Post #68 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:55 am 
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

wow.. i will save my ajikeshi ko for now.
i guess he might ignore me. or not??
nomatter what this is my only choice.
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . a . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O 5 . . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #69 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:09 am 
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Interesting... If I answer his threat, maybe I can use "a":
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . a O 5 6 . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O 4 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . 3 X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


But this will require some more thought...

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Offline Loons
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Post #70 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:59 am 
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Very exciting match.

Sometimes black cannot permit this. This time does not seem to be one of those times though, so I'm just making noise, really.

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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 0
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . X . . . . . , . . . . . X . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . , . . . . . X . . . . . , . . . |
$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . . . X O . . O X 1 . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . . O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X 2 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #71 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:37 am 
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 1 white: 1
$$ ---------------------------------------
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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Meh, what the heck. I'll continue to ko...

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Post #72 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:40 am 
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[go]$$Wcm21 black: 2 white: 1
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$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 2 white: 1
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$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i was going to use ko threat as below..but i was afraid he might not answer my threat.
so i decided to use ajikeshi ko threat. this ko threat is very important for me to win.

in my opinion he can lose the threat and play somewhere twice and still will be good game for black.
for me, if i lose this ko then i am in big hole. i was lucky that he answered my threat on prior move.
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 2 white: 1
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$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . 2 . X X 3 . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Offline Li Kao
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Post #73 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:49 am 
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I'd ignore MW's threat

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Offline Dusk Eagle
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Post #74 Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:01 pm 
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[go]$$Bcm1
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I wouldn't. Given Magicwand's current predicament, the atsusa ;-) seems too good for white IMO.

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[go]$$Wcm1
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . 2 X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . W X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O . . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . O . 3 X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #75 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:47 am 
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 2 white: 2
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


I will play here. He might ignore the threat, but if he does, then the marked stones are absolutely safe, even if I tenuki. For example:
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . . B B O . O O X . . |
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$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O X . O X X . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O . O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . |
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Post #76 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:09 am 
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 3 white: 2
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . 7 X X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O 5 O 6 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
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$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


correct move for kirby:
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 3 white: 2
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . 8 O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . 7 X X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O 5 O 6 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i dont think he will answer as below.
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 3 white: 2
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$$ | . . X . . . . . . 7 X X O . O O X . . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . 8 . X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O X . O X X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O 5 O 6 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


i have to win ko fight in order to take advantage of the weakness a and b
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 3 white: 2
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . 7 X X O . O O X b . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O X . O X X a . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O 5 O 6 . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]

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Post #77 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:26 am 
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I don't know why Kirby allowed this ko fight. I can't see him gaining anything in this area that he didn't already have before
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Post #78 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:44 pm 
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I don't know why Kirby allowed this ko fight. I can't see him gaining anything in this area that he didn't already have before

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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 3 white: 2
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$$ | . . . O . . . . . . . . . C . . . . . |
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$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O . . . . X . . |
$$ | . . X . . . . . . O X X O . O O X b . |
$$ | . . O . . . . . . . O X O . X O O X . |
$$ | . . . O . O . . X , X O X X . X X a . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . X O O O X . X . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . X X . O X O . . |
$$ | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
$$ ---------------------------------------[/go]


Kirby winning the ko seems huge to me... at least as big as exploiting the a/b weakness for MW if he wins. Maybe I lack imagination, but once M6 is safe, how many ko threats could Magicwand have that are bigger than some move around :ec: ? It's not so much whether the ko is worth winning that worries me, it's whether Kirby has enough threats to win it. But in the worst case scenario, he can just defend his cut in sente, which is better than playing R5 in gote - that's the whole point of ko, right?
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Post #79 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:49 pm 
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I know he doesn't have a lot of options, but every time MW lengthens that nonfunctional ladder his position gets worse. Kirby should just try and spin the ko out as long as possible, he's gaining even if he loses the ko.
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Post #80 Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:44 pm 
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[go]$$Wcm31 black: 3 white: 3
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